I knew it was the real deal (the pic that is) you can tell, they were darkened at the mint. (So were 1935s though), the date looked genuine (not altered). If you see a 1933 coin dark like that in such high grade with lustre shining through you can be sure it's not an altered coin. (Could be an all out fake i suppose, but not an altered one). If it had been an ex-35 one then the date would have been iffy. The question is not how the coin ended up in the seller's loft but rather more what the heck is he actually claiming to be selling? I for once don't actually know... Te penny, the half penny, some strange hybrid? An Edward V coin (notice Edward V coins are also extremely rare)... i think this guy knows something about coins. He knows Edward V is rare (even if they are all gold/silver and hammered and many centuries too early it matters not to this seller), he also knows some 1933 coins are rare,perhaps hedoesn't know whether it's the penny of the half penny though and thus he's used both descriptions... Very odd. I know the trick he's pulling... he's trying to come across as the "i know nothing about coins [he does really however limited it may be], here is a 1933 'penny' [look at the pic see it is a 1933 penny] i don't know if it's worth anything [but you know that and you'll think i'm not trying to scam you if you think i don't know what i've got hold of here... so you're gonna get it for a bargin are you?]" Now surely he'd just lable it as 1933 George V penny? Why confuse things further?