JJs

I'm holding out for a hoard of maybe 50-60 1933 pennies found under the cabbage patch. Imagine the once-in-a-lifetime thrill and uniqeness of acquiring a large hoard of coins far in excess of the number actually minted.

Some background to the Eric Saga. The 4th pic down in the Ebay listing is a St Peter/Sihtric penny which the seller found before his Eric. This was submitted to EMC (2018.0435) and PAS (DENO-FCA770) and eventually sold by CNG (https://auctions.cngcoins.com/lots/view/4-QVUN2/anglo-saxon-anglo-viking-hiberno-norse-northumbria-st-peter-coinage-circa-921-927-ar-penny-20mm-123-g-3h-swordcross-type-bmc-1-york-mint-struck-under-sihtric-ii-caech) Also I uploaded a video superimposing/animating his Eric over the PAS one (YORYM-BA2295), at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b1QpPVzrKM

Could be an Eric Morecambe commemorative token

I've done an image comparison on computer, taking perspective distortions etc into account (I'm used to doing this when comparing Iceni coins with published dies), and details on this coin and the PAS one appear virtually identical right down to die flaws. I did contact the seller yesterday telling him this - he explained why he doesn't want to send it to PAS or EMC

Yes, and I'm really looking forward to the new yarn that goes with it. Hoping this time for granny to play a central role.

Get up, Shill up Shill up bunch of shites

Very tough question. At the moment the only way of doing the former seems to be to add the sellers' names to a maintained list of cheats like http://augustuscoins.com/ed/fakesellers.html and http://www.lateromanbronzecoinforum.com/index.php?topic=1218.0 I suspect MB may be part of a group with a bunch of Ebay names and possibly different house addresses who shill bid each other up as required.

Looking at the third and seventh pictures down on the listing it's clear both sides were struck upside down. Must be worth a fortune.

Very impolite. I hope any future contact from this forum begins Dear Bob ...

My copy from bitsandbobs.etc has 161 both sides. Maybe it's an extremely rare fake worth hundreds of thousands (to marlybob1/dimondgirl) 😉 It's advertised as same dimensions and weight as the original, but is noticeably thinner than a 1935 penny.

Those angled serifs must be really tricky for forgers! If the pics I've seen are the real thing it's just the pattern penny missing the extra wave, the "ordinary" 1933 has it.

Well not long to go for 1933. She's now claiming it's a pattern penny, demonstrably false as shown in comparson with https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:1933_Pattern_Penny.jpg eg look under the foot (fake is the bluish pic)

Maybe the public bidder is "her" as well - after all we know "she" has at least two ebay names. I'm no expert but out of interest I compared her penny with the real thing https://www.antiquestradegazette.com/news/2016/1933-and-all-that-165-000-for-britain-s-numismatic-superstar/ and there are many detail differences. I've attached pics of some text from each - see how the serifs are much straighter/cruder in her version (fake over real).

A cat that's just eaten a crow?

That's good, so there's a chance you might be able to pick up the matching front and back half