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Jerry, I must admit what you say does make sense. Maybe my recollection is blurred! I therefore need to trawl back through the correspondence to confirm exactly what was asked for by the FLO. However, I was certainly asked to obtain valuations prior to the PAS submission but since all of this was being done through my MD club (it was a club site on which I found this gold artefact) I am now wondering whether the club was asking for the valuations in order to negotiate a settlement with the landowner once the PAS process gave the all-clear which is what eventually happened. Frank

I agree, PAS does not value the item. However a professional valuation is asked for by the FLO that is inserted in his/her notification to PAS. This also assists any museum in their decision whether to express an interest. Frank

If genuine, it would be interesting to know what valuation was submitted and accepted by PAS since unless the finder was also lucky enough to be the landowner, they would have to 'buy-out' the landowner based on the PAS value in order to legally sell the coin. A good test of provenance would therefore be to see documentation to support that! Frank

Half a crow is better than no crow I suppose! Isn't there some numismatic analogy here with a Tommy Steele musical? Frank

I also asked which 'numismatic agencies' a couple of days ago - so far no answer. Frank

In view of its size and thickness as a hammered coin, I reckon the weight given may be in the ballpark for a genuine coin. However, I agree it looks 'dodgy' and could be a casting which because thicker would add weight to equate with a thinner gold coin. Frank

1650 ENGLAND UK Oliver Cromwell PARLIAMENT British ANTIQUE OLD Medal Coin i88197 | eBay He's at it again!

STEPHEN 1136-1145 AD KING of ENGLAND ANGLO-NORMAN SILVER Ar PENNY 1,55 gr. | eBay Yet another very blatant con from Eastern Europe! Frank

Further to my last post, this is a follow-up article about Richard II fakes... http://britnumsoc.blog/2021/01/02/caveat-emptor-ii-modern-forgeries-of-richard-ii-d-i-greenhalgh/ Frank

http://britnumsoc.blog/2021/01/01/caveat-emptor-some-modern-fakes-of-henry-iii-long-cross-pennies-rob-page/ This BNS-Blog article is very concerning and mentions these items showing up on eBay. Furthermore, the Eastern European fakes cited are very convincing compared to others from that region that always seem to 'jump out' as counterfeits. This is worthwhile reading for all hammy collectors! Frank

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/274544880664?ul_noapp=true Who's this seller trying to kid?

If you look at his other items it seems that he is rather partial to using the Duraglit! For example, the Jersey 1/12 shilling he offers with a similar brassy shine and cheeky description. Mind you we could forgive I suppose because in somewhat Pidgin English he does say, "We believe on Collecting valuable objects uniquely rewards me with beauty, history, personal satisfaction, and more. Honesty and fairness must define every facet of our life"!!! ...and we can further forgive a bit of polishing because, "Part of our sales goes to charity for Elderly People and Young Children"! How pleasing it is to have such generous sellers on eBay! Frank

The seller of this is optimistic.... https://www.ebay.com/itm/Elizabeth-I-Medieval-Silver-Threepence-Coin-1/193490871283?_trksid=p2485497.m4902.l9144

I picked this snippet from Cointalk concerning a discussion that was taking place on the ebay community website about 3 months ago... https://community.ebay.com/t5/Selli...w-the-sale-or-purchase-of-Coins/td-p/30666292 Does this spell the end of this thread?? Frank

Undoubtedly the latter!