Cliff

Here's my H to first 8 (Mainly for Ian's benefit - to prove that I can do single shots - SOMETIMES!).

Yep, that's mine Mike. How did London Coins describe your pic of the H to the left?

Does this H to second 8 rate an additional Gouby H reference Ian, can't see it documented anywhere?

Sorry about previous duplication, couldn't find a way to get rid! Please see attached (once I hope!) for you consideration. Gouby Ha says the H is "very close to the linear circle". Attached example disappears into the LC, whilst top of H is "virtually in line with the base of the numerals".

Don't know if this one is high enough to qualify?

I have a hammered silver Penny acquired as an Edward 1 coin some years back. On doing a bit of sorting recently, I see that it appears to have a bifoliate crown and, with it also being a London mint, my understanding is that makes it probably Edward 2??? However, if I'm understanding correctly, I think some of the later Edward 1s also had bifoliate crowns, with two leaves at each end, which replaced the earlier trifoliate coins with three leaves. Apparently there were four types which were allocated between Class 10C to 10F. Please can anyone either agree or put me right with my understanding (mostly gleaned from a Coincraft's 2000 Standard Catalogue of English and UK Coins. Any help in correctly identifying the attached would also be much appreciated.

Thank you both for the interest. Have placed an order for "The Galata Guide, The Pennies of Edward I and II" you recommended. Thanks again.

Thanks for the informative prompt response Rob. Probably "old hat" to most regular hammered Penny collectors but I've just found Rod Blunt's "Early Edwardian Pennies (1279-1344) http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/pages/edwardian-Pennies/Edwardian%20Pennies%20P1.htm44) article and am now trying to absorb some of the wealth of information (I'm at the very bottom of a steep learning curve).

Crikey! - Tad naïve of me (?) regarding identification of my coin. Have now done a bit of reading up on these Edward I, II Pennies and hadn't realized just how many variants there are! Reckon I need to reach for my reading specs, open a fresh bottle and see what I can make of them all.

Maybe need to ask seller's customers' - umpteen buyers (all different) but using identical feedback "could be next Kew gardens"???!!!

Rotographic's "England's Striking History" explains that many Aethelred II coins were used as Danegelt payments "which explains why so many English coins of his reign are found today in hoards located by Scandinavian metal detectorists". I've seen some good examples (different Moneyers) of these coins and suggest their apparent almost "uncirculated" condition may be the result of them having been hoarded almost straight from off the Viking long- ship?

Thanks for the prompt response and the info.

Pardon my ignorance but what's Etsy please?

Don't know if you've seen them but there's been, at least, 4 up for sale on eBay over the last week or so. 3 of them are still there all BIN at £149, £275 and £500) and one went off earlier this evening (don't think it sold).

BP1865Bd????? as promised. Thanks for the response Nordle11, I've been busy this week so haven't been able to reply sooner or have a proper look but should be able to find some time this week. I don't know if it was of my doing but your response and my two pics of the second 1865/3 (that I'd temporally given as BP1865Bd?????) seemed to have merged into the one post and showed two of the first batch and the two pics of the second coin (on this PC at any rate). Cack handed me or the result of a simultaneous transmission?

BP1865Bd????? as promised.

I have a couple of 1865 5/3 Pennies that I am having trouble splitting by their Gouby definitions and would much appreciate any help in this matter please. I note that John Jerrams,on page 38 of his Satin Reference book, says "It is worth noting that normally overdates and overletters are rarely as well defined as one would perhaps wish for! It is usual for perhaps only a couple of characteristics of the underlying figure or letter, to be sharply defined." it is with John's statement very much in mind that I've allocated the attached as BP 1865Bc and would welcome your comments please. With the same train of thought I've allocated my second example (sent separately) as BP1865Bd but admit to having gone round numerous trains of thought before coming up with this! Regards to all (and hope I've kept this with the Penny section?)

Straight in (PC) and fantastic content with wonderful pictures! Initial thoughts along the lines, 'this would also be great in book form' (as a portable reference?) but wonderful to also have this view and zoom option. The word 'Respect' springs to mind.

I was the recipient of a 'tip off' and was glad of it. I'd put a coin up for sale and was quickly contacted by a potential buyer querying my pics. On examination I was mortified to see that I'd mixed pics from two different coins. I was then able to 'end' the sale before bidding started and too much confusion had been caused. The gentleman (unknown to me before this episode) was correct in what he'd said, kindly contacted me privately to say it, and saved me much potential embarrassment.

I think we are talking worn die on these Thanks for your response and reference to earlier interesting posts on similar. I'm having a bit of a ponder (may take some time!).

Thanks for the response Terry. I'd obviously misunderstood and had somehow got it that these wavy/straight Es were specific to the 1903 Pennies! Cliff

Full views. Not the best example of the coin which isn't helped by my lack of photo skills! Can't swear to the accuracy of the tilt which is the result of a bit of fiddling and much swearing.

1903 open 3 pics showing straight bottomed E, Will to show 15 degree slant later.

Lo Terry. The straight and wavy Es are new to me, are they documented anywhere please? Is it just the 1903 open 3 that can have the two types of E or can the closed 3 also have either? I have a close 3 (open 9) that shows, what I am taking to be, a wavy E (attached). I also have an open 3 (closed 9) that I take is the straight bottomed E? I think my open 3 example displays the 15 degree anticlockwise rotation you mention. I'll attempt to picture separately. Cliff.

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