the 1954 penny

[the 1954 penny]

Hm, not sure. I searched their collection online and couldn't find one, and I thought it was privately owned but I'm not sure.

[New undiscovered 1860 obverse die]

So, just going through and trying to make sense of all this - if the new obverse die is called 2* then the coins that exist are:

1860

2 + B

2 + D

2* + D

1861

2 + D

2 + F

2 + G

1862

2 + G

@rashenly2 do you know if this new obverse die occurs with both reverses D and D* as described by Paul Holland?

[the 1954 penny]

Out of curiosity is the image at http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk/pics/pen5.html of a real 1954 penny? I only ask as I was intending to count the beads but given it is described as being anonymously donated I wanted to be sure it wasn't just a modified 1953.

[clogs, die faults, et al.]

Anyway, could some one enlighten me on what this error would be called.

Looks like it was struck through a lamination.

[Newbie Sovereign Collector]

Thanks for the plug Mr T.

No worries.

[Mint error or post mint damage?]

Looks post mint but bits of it look like lamination. Hard to say.

[1863 penny.....]

Mainly, I suspect, on coins produced by James Watt.

Why is that? They didn't do the dates themselves did they?

[New undiscovered 1860 obverse die]

How about the obverse 2 on 1862 pennies?

[1902 Low Tide Penny anomaly?]

The E of ONE tends to be the same as the E in PENNY so I think it may be a different die but who knows ? (And before you say it, Rob, who cares !)

The curved/flat based letters occurs on Victorian silver too, as well as Australian pennies. I think it's got to do with metal flow, possibly during working die production.

Got one, I think, my other is curved. But its not a difference I would go hunting for.

Not like having extra teeth!

Jerry

It's a smokescreen to lure people away from looking for that new obverse D !!!!!!

There's a new obverse?

[Is collecting varieties a new thing?]

Great link squire. Also does anyone know if the plate on the last page supposed to be there?

Not sure - can't check just now but check in one of the documents at the end - some of the later issues have a separate document for short articles and plates I think.

[Is collecting varieties a new thing?]

Someone was looking hard at bun head pennies as early as 1907: http://www.britnumsoc.org/publications/Digital%20BNJ/1907.shtml (look for "The bronze coinage of Queen Victoria").

[Any early advice?]

The advice not to buy too readily is good except I think it gets a bit boring if you're not buying or lining up purchases.

Very much so. Collecting circulating coins is good for maintaining progress.

[Any early advice?]

My advice would be to make a book your first purchase, and definitely start at the inexpensive end first so if you do make a mistake it won't be expensive. Looking back at some of my first purchases, I probably wouldn't have made them knowing what I know now but it's all part of the learning experience.

Do you guys end up with an encyclopedic knowledge of values of each coin, or look them up when necessary, or I guess somewhere in between?

For me I think that browsing this forum and ebay fairly regularly imparts a sense of what is a reasonable price and what isn't.

[Testing myself on Freeman Varieties]

Michael Gouby's book on the subject is quite good in that it provides large clear pictures of each obverse and reverse in their entirety.

[Clubs and societies]

I'm not a member of any societies, partially because I feel committed enough as it is, and partially because I like the sort of anonymity that the Internet provides.

Societies do good work though, especially with their journal production.

[More Pennies]

still can't get it in there as a link. Anyone help please ?

Type the URL, then highlight it, then click on 9th button along on the second row (the chain links with the green plus) then paste in the URL. I think.

[More Pennies]

Address is www.englishpennies.wordpress.com

Echoing the sentiments of others - indescribably good. You should write a book.

Yes, Michael Freeman offered it to me 3 years ago but I paid significantly less for it this time. Worth waiting for. He also sent me some useful background material last time.

Any more details than what we got in the thread about it?

[Coin Values]

Coin values in a certain part of the market may be subdued but only because of a lack of collectors , in otherwords it does not matter if your coin is rare as hens teath if no one is interesting in collecting it the item WILL NOT SELL AND ITS PRICE WILL ALWAYS BE LOW.

This is why for instance halfpennies are alway sold at a very reasonable price considering their rarity and the ever popular pennies and farthings lead the market.

I'd agree with this sentiment that the unpopular denominations are undervalued, but being unpopular they're probably going to stay undervalued.

[2013 50p royal mint error]

Actually it looks like a modern fake to me.. very interesting! Picture of the other side please?

They're faking these now too?

[ESC 6th EDITION]

It is now sorted by reign rather than denomination

Sorry, that's what I meant.

Anyway, it's certainly good that numbers like 1475PP are a thing of the past.

[ESC 6th EDITION]

Didn't even realise there was a new edition - still, ordering by denomination and renumbering both sound like good ideas.

[Anyone plan on bidding?]

Lovely coin, and a very comprehensive description too.

[2013 50p royal mint error]

I'd agree that it is double struck.

[coin monthly ?.]

I've got the September 1973 Coin Monthly and there is an article by John Foan about the pennies of 1860 to 1894 which, from a quick skim, mostly appears to be Michael Freeman's research.

[Halfcrown 1920: where is the difference between Spink 4021 and 4021A]

http://www.michael-coins.co.uk/hc1920%20rev%20A+B.htm

really good photos and description! I did have a reverse B once but sold it before doing my homework....oops

Ah thanks!