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This from Dalton & Hamer:
The arms of Glasgow are very ancient, and are attributed to St. Kentigern, who is said to have founded a small religious establishment on the banks of a tributary of the Clyde, where the City now stands, and that he hung a bell upon a tree near by, to call the worshippers.
Now as to the “fish” and the “ring”: This refers to a certain queen who, tradition states, carried on an intrigue with a soldier, and gave to him a ring which she had received from the king. This ring was afterwards taken from the soldier while he slept, and, by the king was thrown into the Clyde, who later demanded its production by the queen; she, in her difficulty consulted the Saint, who had a newly caught fish brought, in which was found the ring, and thereby the king’s suspicions were allayed. But there appears a bird perched on a branch of the tree, to which no reference is made in the foregoing note.
Another version is given in a manuscript note by the late Rev. W. R. Hay, M.A., vicar of Rochdale : ” The arms of Glasgow are—a tree in full leaf, a bird at the top of it, a bell hanging from the tree, and a salmon with a ring in its mouth. The story: A man promised marriage
to a servant cook, and after having bought the wedding ring, refused to marry her. On her upbraiding him, he threw the ring over the bridge into the Clyde, and promised that if she found and brought it to him he would marry her. Some time after, in gutting a salmon for
dinner, she found the ring in it ; on which she claimed the promise, and her lover married her.
” The tree is the woman ready to be married ; the bird at the top, her lover who would not come down ; the bell, that which should have rang for their marriage; and the salmon, that which swallowed the ring.”
The following lines are current in Scotland on the subject:—
” Here’s a tree that never grew,
Here’s a bird that never flew,
Here’s a bell that never rung,
And here’s a drunken salmon.”
The salmon is described as “drunken” because it appears as floating on its back, this being the position of a dead fish in water.- 1
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3 minutes ago, brg5658 said:Some truly wonderful new tokens and coins posted in this thread.
I've been a bit "sparse" as of late, but I do check in from time to time.
One particular note: @Paulus your photography is superb!
Best, Brandon
Thanks Brandon!
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Just now, will1976 said:It's only the second I've come across, the other was listed as fair and 'quite battered'
Still available as far as I'm aware if your interested
No I don't, but thanks anyway - I don't want any 'battered' coins regardless of the rarity!
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You got one! Nice one Will!
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I'm down to 9 after picking this up from The Druid last month
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Ah, you got that one, nice!
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I acquired this coin a good while back (from Rob I think), just wondered if it seemed okay to people?
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This is the example from MH Coins, currently graded PCGS MS64
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Recent-ish addition
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2 minutes ago, Rob said:Yes, a misprunt. Bull illustrated the date on p.153.
Ah yes, so I see ...
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Yes please Pete
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16 minutes ago, will1976 said:Yes I'm afraid so and i need six of the ten you listed! The ones I need are:
167 Meeting Paradise strt
169 Jerusalem Temple
177 Barracks Erected
184 Birmingham Library
186 Birmingham Workhouse
191 Welch Cross
194 Blue School
202 New Brass Works
205 New Brewery
212 Soho Manufactory
I did have the opportunity to buy the Welch Cross example but it had a bad corrosion spot on the reverse so I declined it in the hope of finding a better example. Do any of yours have the Ottley reverse? I've not come across any so far
No Ottley reverses, no, and I haven't come across one either! And I've only got one reverse 4 example:
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21 minutes ago, will1976 said:Gorgeous examples!
So you're one of the Birmingham Kempson buildings collectors I'm competing against!
Funnily enough I also have 10 left to collect:
150 ST. BARTHOLOMEW'S CHAPEL.
159 THE OLD MEETING DESTROY'D
167 MEETING PARADISE STRT
171 ST. PAUL'S CHAPEL.
180 GENERAL HOSPITAL
184 LIBRARY
186 BIRM WORKHOUSE
194 BLUE SCHOOL
202 THE NEW BRASS WORKS
205 NEW BREWERY
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Latest, a Bath penny Conder token, D&H 4
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Just when I thought I'd seen it all, here's a NGC designation I had not seen before - DPL. In case you cannot guess, it stands for 'Deep Proof Like'.
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4 minutes ago, Rob said:Well done. That's a decent enough coin, and reasonably priced. Certainly compared to lot 68.
Thanks Rob!
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I won lot 66, which ticked a few boxes for me - my first Charles I Bristol mint, my first declaration coin, and my first coin illustrated in Brooker
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Just thought I'd start a new topic on this, there is much to debate, not for the first time I am sure!
A while back I acquired 2 'pieces of eight' examples, the type collector in me wants at least a 4 reales, example and an octagonal counter-stamp example.
Here are my 2 (Mexico and Bolivia (Potosi) mints), would love to see other members' examples!
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I only have the 1 Pidcock's example at the moment, this one's a farthing, with an elephant and cockatoo. Undated but late 1790s, as Will says
The other animals in the Pidcock's farthing token series are catalogued in Dalton & Hamer as lion, two-headed cow, pelican, beaver and wanderow (a type of monkey)
The Pidcock's halfpenny token series also depict zebra, crane, tiger, rhino, eagle, nylghau (a type of Indian antelope), kangaroo, toucan and ostrich - I can only imagine that all these creatures were on view at the exhibition!
There is evidence that Claudius had a 'war' elephant in England in Roman times, and that Henry III had a menagerie in the Tower of London, which included an elephant given by Louis IX of France in 1255.
I continue to find these 'Conder' tokens fascinating pieces of our history!
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7 minutes ago, Rob said:Does anyone else think the recent changes to the DNW online catalogue viewing has been a retrograde step? You used to be able to click on a full screen link and magnify images such that they literally filled the screen. However, digital 'progress' now means it is blown up within a hopelessly small area covering a fraction of the screen, which makes viewing considerably more difficult.
There are now 'expand' arrows in the top right. For me, if I click there, the coin images virtually fill the screen, as before ...
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15 hours ago, azda said:@Paulus Grading is done in Munich, it will start on the 18th Feb for 1 week, the next is pencilled in for May but not official as yet, i'll hopefully get it pinned down when i pick my submissions up on the 27th Feb
Thanks Dave, I may well be sending you a few for the May grading session, I don't think I'lll be able to make the imminent one (but it might be possible)
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On 2/11/2019 at 7:14 AM, azda said:If anyone is looking to get their coins graded then let me know, i can possibly help out as NGC are doing on-site grading at their Munich office and it's only an ubahn ride for me.
They start grading next week 18th Feb and finish on the 26th Feb when i will go and pick up my submission that day, i think are doing this every 2-3 months, so if i can help anyone out then just let me know.
Of course its also a matter of trust, but i've been on here long enough for most regulars to know me, i've also met and spoke with Rob if you need some sort of confirmation.
The offer is there...
Do they send them to the US for grading? (i.e. is in on-site submissions or on-site grading?)
Gothic Crown for sale on the Royal Mint website
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I bet the one you get isn't the one in the pics