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Looking the 2 examples of my F38 1862 mules, although low grade, I had noted that the 2 obverse’s were from different dies. On one, the V in VIC is close to the linear circle, while on the other it is noticeably further away from the circle. I checked the specimens pictured on Richards site and both types are there to be seen in better condition.

Some of his collection was sold though London Coin Auctions in 2009, Auction 124. I think lots 1135 > 1367. It's good to look through them for the info and a bonus having the images. He also had a sales list that he sold coins from.

Nice one Gary 👍 It must be an earlier version I have a photocopy of, I can’t recall that info page. Most of my coins and books are stored away so I can’t check.

Thanks, just AT would be preferred again please.

Here’s the reverses, files were too big to add to original post.

the ref numbers he gave the pairings were the following 1164 - 1+C 1165 - 1+D 1165A - 1+A 1165B - 2+A 1165C - 2+C 1165D - 2+D

Davies told me about the 2 different obverses, noted after his book was published. I bought a few specimens from him. 1889, I have pairings 1+A , 1+C , 1+D, 2+A, 2+C and 2+D minor varieties, 1+A I have 2, joined leaf and severed leaf. 2+A I have 3 minor varieties, joined leaf far 9, joined leaf close 9 and severed leaf far 9.

I don’t know if they’ve been published anywhere. There were a number of varieties Peter Davies confirmed after he published his book. He kept notes of them all and gave them cat. Numbers usually with letters after the numbers. I bought an example of each of these 2 Halfcrowns from him along with some other coins back around 2010/11. I’ve attached a pic of my 5+C 1882

1882 has 2 varieties, reverse C and reverse D 1889 obverse 2 is paired with reverses A, B & C

I agree, it sold for £850 +commission, which for a unique date is an excellent buy, if it was a unique dated Penny, I wouldn't like to hazard a guess at what that would reach. The estimate was only £300-£400.

It was DNW. Lot number 1773 Auction 29/09/10 I was unsure if the coin was genuine but Peter Davies assured me he believed it was.

I've only found 1 of the rare 1965 varieties in around 15 years, a very difficult variety to find. I still check each one I come across. I'd have to choose the 1847 Sixpence for my coin of the year. Believed to be unique, it came up in auction a few years back and I didn't bid believing it would sell for way over my budget. When I checked the results, it sold for less than what I would have bid . . although I don't know what the winning bidder would have topped out at, I might have won it. I learnt my lesson.

The Halfcrowns have 2 obverses, I in GRATIA to tooth or bead, I have found several of each of these Sixpences, the last A in GRATIA to bead or right of bead, both are not too difficult to find. The Halfpenny I have only ever found one with the thin rim. I believe that there was a 1970 Proof set found with a 1967 Penny, that would be an amazing find. I can't remember where I read this, possibly in coincraft?

Hi, the scarcest 1970 variety to look for is the Halfpenny with thin obverse rim. It has D of DEI pointing between beads the Florin with the E of DEI to bead is quite scarce

Hi Rashenley, did you manage to check the line running around the Penny reverse?

http://www.predecimal.com/forum/topic/7660-rare-edward-vii-penny-varieties/page-2?hl=%2B1897+%2Bflaw#entry81086 here is the thread

Victorian Bronze Halfpenny varieties by Ian Dracott were published in Coin News in April, May and July 2004. The obverses and reverses were described in the first 2 issues and the known pairings were listed in the July issue. There are far more varieties in here than in Freeman, also rarity levels for each die pairs are noted too. Worth getting a copy if you can. Unfortunately there was very few pictures but . . . . I also had a CD which had large high grade pictures of each obverse and reverse, I tried to load it up a few months back but the CD seems to be damaged. I cant remember if I got the CD from Ian?, it was some time ago. Possibly other members on here might have a copy.

I agree with Bernie 12+J . Looks like a thick neck which would make it an obverse 10 or 12. obverse 10 I think is only known on Heaton Halfpennies? The hair overlaps the forehead which would indicate either obverses 11 or 12, so I'd go 12.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UK-Great-Britain-Half-Penny-1878-/391217096119?euid=626f320572ae41f6a12d69d5042e09e0&cp=1&nma=true&si=WYI%252BBnYHSeo7A2fyYwvGtmtJlwo%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 This one was on eBay a couple of months back, one of the nicest I've seen. I made an offer to the seller, he accepted it and I paid for it. Not long after, I received a refund and was told he got a higher offer.

Thank you. Yeah the ribbon does seem slightly different. The distance between the leaves and acorns with the border teeth are slightly different too. It was probably the reverse design increased in size ever so slightly, similar to what they done with the Jubilee head issue reverses. You can see the difference comparing the 1897 and 1899.

It could be the light but the 1887 looks like it is not quite as round at the bottom right of the curve, on the outside edge at the bottom of the downstroke where it would start to curve to the left? Sort of looks like a thin curve attached to a wider downstroke? Apart from that I can see nothing else, they both look pretty complete to me. If it is the slight mis-shape at the bottom right they are referring to, that is taking 'varieties' to another level. I collect micro varieties like date pointings, etc, but I wouldn't go that far. Hopefully someone else might see something.

I offered £35 and it was refused, she responded with £40 which I accepted. It was listed for 10 days and it only had 2 days left when I noticed it, I was away on holiday, so I took a gamble on the offer. If it was newly listed when I seen it I would have bought it straight away.

Thanks, this is the only example I have found in almost 3 years of looking. Just very lucky it came in the grade it did, I would have settled for any grade to fill the gap in the collection. It was on eBay item number 351476105264.

I have finally found an 1898 Sixpence with Davies reverse B, smaller date figures. It has taken me longer than I thought it would to get one.

The 1861 Penny is 6+G Freeman 33. Edit: Oops, a bit slow there, I didn't realise it was continued onto another page