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The reliance on a so called influencer who doesn’t know his arse from his elbow has pushed the modern coins to such levels of greed that those who trust what he says are now finding out he was just shilling coins he bought so he could sell off at hyper inflated prices to buy the numismatic coins. Some people never learn, yet they still trust him and flock to his YT channel. Fools and their money are soon parted as we are now seeing from the recent dump in modern coin prices, and not before time.

A Churchill got £800 in MS65 grade at Baldwins just a few months ago. Ridiculous

NGC are here in Munich

True, but I'm not sure if there's a charge to correct their mistake. Will have to ask about that.

So in short P1244 KH22. Thanks people for the help. Will send it back now for correct attribution.

Yes, that's the problem with taking pictures through plastic. I taken a few more with the iPhone and shot them over to Rob in an email and see if I can get it pinned down. I don't have any sort of setup for coin pics, I have a Sony A7s, but that's more for astrophotography plus the weather is dull and miserable here today, so I'm pissing against the wind right now.

Cheers, sometimes you need to have dinner plates too see the finer details. I'm sending the files onto Rob, they'll be 20meg each as they are RAW files instead of jpegs. The actual coin is darker in colour, I just upped the brightness to get more visible detail. Once I can confirm the Peck number I'll try and get a more representative picture.

PM me your email address again Rob and i’ll send large pics, the forum has a max limit.

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Hopefully the picture is big enough to ID

So this has just landed but no time for some camera pics, just a quick one with the phone, and seen that the edge is grained

This is NGCs picture, as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike

The 1242 has a sub reference KH22 (1242 has a 7 jewelled brooch and as you mentioned is copper proof)the 1242 KH22 ists as Struck from current die, with K added before dot (so only 1 dot) on the shoulder K on lowest fold of drapery Brooch with 6 square jewels Wreath has 11 leaves but no branching views visible Tie ribbons show 1 loopmwith 2 loose ends, not straited Small rust spot to the cheeks and another Ron lower lip REV Middle prong of trident points to left of first limn on N 3 raised dots on rock Shield has thin raised rim 14 leaves olive branch Ship has a poop with very small flag with 3 or 4 very minute relief gunport (pic isn't great to see this detail) It could be another variant, but was throwing it out there as my ballpark reference

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A cursory internet check and I found the $10 Cuffy in MS64

Or maybe they got their price from Sovereign Rarities

Just checked PCGS and they don't have this (yet)

Only discovered this today and not sure when this new grade column was added, but for all those fans of the moderns and the hype surrounding trying to get 70 grades, well this column with make your 70 grade just like a 69 in the future. Welcome to the 70* grade

You can send them over to me VS if no one has offered yet.

This might be a little left field here, and before I go further, war is never the answer, but I just feel that Zelensky is being used by the west and America, the cringeworthy clapping that went on by Parliament (remember the clap for the NHS?) absolute bs, same at Brussels, this for me feels like a stage. US and BRITAIN saying they'd stand by him if war broke out then stood back as war broke out. Boris trying his best Churchill act while party gate takes the back pages these days, the man is not fit for office considering his party has been funded by Russians and a Russian given a peerage who's father was an ex KBG agent, the whole thing stinks.........

Still love Liz coinage

This is only for fun as we know how some dealers think that a particular grade should command a particular price, so, guess the grade and price.

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Coinerys images

This is the ticket for the hammered coin