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  1. 4 hours ago, Paddy said:

    Very nicely done! It would be good to see the other side too.

    There is a small market for this sort of thing - the purist penny collectors will not touch it, but the token and counter-stamp people may well want it. As it is such a well done example and in great condition I expect someone would pay up to £20 for it. I have seen EdVII and George V pennies engraved to give the king a pipe to smoke making this sort of money.

     

    The best one I've seen is Victoria on her potty!

    Victoria on the loo!.jpg

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  2. 13 hours ago, Paddy said:

    ...and in America you can get pissed without touching a drop...

    Though I have noticed some Americans using the "pissed off" form.

    One of the biggest laughs was when Phil Collins made a guest appearance in Miami Vice, and as a typical Brit one of his lines included calling someone a "wanker". "I can't say that!" protested our Phil, and explained to the producers what it meant. "That's ok" they replied. "Americans don't know the word so we'll leave it in." Phil decided not to remind them that the show was also syndicated for UK television...


  3. 8 minutes ago, zookeeperz said:

    If you run around the street in america in your pants nobody would blink an eyelid but Do that in the UK you would be arrested for indecent exposure :lol:

    Underpants are indecent? :o Who knew.


  4. 8 hours ago, 1949threepence said:

    Did we ever call Autumn "Fall"? Never realised that before.  

    Apparently everyone knew a certain element as "aluminum" until the mid-19th Century when Brits added the extra "i" to bring it line with magnesium etc.


  5. 6 hours ago, 1949threepence said:

    Ill gotten gains?

    Ok! You found one idiom where it survives! However that wasn't the usage above, I'll say no more. :rolleyes:

    4 hours ago, zookeeperz said:

    Excuse me I hail from a county which has its own Dialect  I am allowed to say gotten :lol:

    All counties have their own dialect (except possibly the Home Counties where they all speak Smuggish :lol:)


  6. 1 hour ago, bagerap said:

    Gotten is a pure English  form as the past participle of Got, if somewhat archaic. There are a lot of UK pubs called the Litten Tree, another example of the ten ending, this time as an adjective.

    That's what I meant to say - "gotten" is old English, but still used 100% by Americans who never say "got", and not used by Brits which is a bit of a shame.


  7. When you say "coin book version 2", do you mean Collectors' Coins, Decimals, as pictured above? The answer would be "yes" if that's what you collect and are interested in. It should list the major varieties though - and I don't know the answer to this as I don't have a copy - it may not go into the excruciating level of detail as the Ron Stafford surveys of 10p and 5p coins he did in the 70s and early 80s.

    By all means photograph your coins, but apart from the odd one you want to know more about, e.g. is it a rare variety, don't post them here! Upload them to a host site e.g. OneDrive (try to avoid Photobucket) and post the link here so that interested members can have a look.

    Are you an American who's been living in the UK for years?


  8. Yes, along with 1754 copper the 1758 shillings continued to be struck into the reign of George III. Note that Northumberlands and the 1787 BoE specials apart, 1758 was the last regular date for shilling issues until 1816, which is an enormous stretch. One can only speculate that they were struck even after the Northumberlands of 1763.

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  9. 12 hours ago, DrLarry said:

    I find that reference books seem to choose arbitrarily which varieties they want to list and which they do not want to list.  there appears to be no reason for the source of this discrepancy other than whether one person who has a variety want to push the books like SPINK to include it. 

    Not so. Spink is a general catalogue so they will be rather picky, though they have included many more varieties over the past 20 years.

    However, there are exhaustive tomes which have attempted to list all known varieties in a particular field : English Silver Coinage started the ball rolling, then Peck did the same for milled copper, bronze, brass and tin. He was supplemented by Freeman for bronze (who did his own exhaustive studies), then by Jerraims and Gouby. Our own Dave Groom did the same for 20th Century coinage, and Davies covered silver from 1816.

    The point is, all these studies were pretty much comprehensive at the time of publication. However, new varieties get discovered all the time, so no book will be comprehensive for all time. Even so, Peck, Davies, Freeman etc are still very valuable references, and we still use them all the time.


  10. 13 hours ago, DrLarry said:

    yes I can but why then list any variety or error.... that was the underlying question really rather than the fact that there are hundreds of varieties of all number of coins in a series.  So perhaps my question would be best ask as follows: why do some get in the list and others don't? to say that they only list the more common would also seem not to fit because they list the E over R in DEI as extremely rare, some they list as Possibly Unique .  I am trying to understand the logic in the choice what to publish and what not to list.  But perhaps there are volumes and volumes of books picking up dust someplace.  Again I ask so that as a novice I should not bother the room with the many overprints I would like to ask you about which I have the R over B in the 61 halfpenny along with 10 other varieties  but not 62 R over B.  I am just trying to understand as I say 

     

    9 hours ago, PWA 1967 said:
    11 hours ago, zookeeperz said:

    I have said it many times it seems like unless your names XXXXXXXXXX good luck getting a variety published. You can even send the info to XXXXXXXXX and it still won't get published because they didn't find it. Or worse still they will tell you what you are seeing is an illusion yet the pictures and descriptions I have seen from themselves are borderline nonsense. The only way to have this information and has been said to me before is to do it yourself. I know for a fact the guy behind the spink book doesn't even want varieties in the book and if proof is the eating of the pudding 2018 book now omits 1860 6+H Penny variety. Which seems very strange as there was a price structure against the coin so it must exist somewhere. About time the guard was changed and the stuffy well to do's removed. :)

     

    (Ignore the "PWA quote" - sometimes the quote posts feature goes absolutely barmy and you can't get out of it.)

    Spink operate on the 'public demand' for inclusion. I tried for a few years to get the second George V silver obverse (1920-1926) and the 1946 ONE' flaw penny included. In the end, I quoted Gouby for the penny and attached a photocopy, and for the silver obverse, I did a mock-up of how the catalogue might look with it, which they more or less adopted in its entirety.

    I would agree with Rob that there is a limit as to just how far you can go with varieties (the Roman section in Spink is only a 'type' catalogue, for example), but if you think there is something in the modern section that warrants inclusion, then just be persistent and who knows - it could get included. Just to underline my point, dig out their predecessor Seaby's catalogue from the 1970s or early 80s - you will find quite a slim volume with only the most well known varieties included.


  11. 6 hours ago, Rob said:

    I think that is an artefact on a worn coin because the bottom one is higher grade and has a diagonal across the lower E serif, and what would correspond to the tail of the R appears bottom right. Even though we are only looking at one letter, they are both from the same die I think because the repunching looks to be identical.

    I agree. It only takes a stray bit of metal in the right place to give the false illusion of curving back. My money's on an R too.

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