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Posts posted by Peckris

  1. I wonder if that's what it really is? I only ask because the 'curve back' (which is clearly there) is extremely thin, which could be a die crack between the strong downstrokes of the R. If you look carefully, there's a similar thin 'connecting rod' at the bottom of the adjacent A.

  2. 11 hours ago, rpeddie said:

    the offender

    sp 1935 (1)-1.jpgsp 1935 (2)-1.jpg

    I still have my "job lot" of these, 40 in total all with the same grade(not all slabbed just the 1)

    :o I have a 1934 that's even better than that (sharper hair) - cost me a fiver from the Midland in the late 90s! At that rate I'd get £200 for it if entombed!!

  3. 2 hours ago, Andrew W said:

    Thanks, 1949threepence. I'm chuffed to bits with it much prefer it to my old Lighthouse trays. Incidentally, if anyone is interested in any Lighthouse trays, message me.

    Ever thought of being a  salesman? :lol: 

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  4. 6 hours ago, Paddy said:

    Printed in 1973 by HMSO, it contains a detailed discussion of all the Edward VIII coins, including colonial, and has black and white photos of most of them. It even has pictures of alternative designs considered for the threepence.

    You mean the brass 3d? The one in the illustration is the ultra rare proof that shows the same reverse design as used for George VI. The almost ultra rare one shows a different design (same motif of a thrift plant) and was the one they issued to shopkeepers etc for testing their machines. A few didn't make it back to the Mint and were the ones people scoured their change for ever since.

    The silver 3d, 6d and halfcrown designs only exist as extremely rare proofs, as do the other denominations though those are the same as used for George VI and shows the 'panic' station the Mint got into after the Abdication in late 1936, at which point they carried on minting George V coins dated 1936 (which is why they're so common) and meanwhile recycled most of the Edward VIII designs for George VI to get the 1937 issues out as soon as possible. 

  5. 14 hours ago, zookeeperz said:

    I also am a frequent user having narcolepsy and cataplexy and have had to research my own medication because the so called Consultants are out of touch and the guy who is my consultant even forgot to contact the then PCT to request my medication be sanctioned . How can you forget when you are dealing with somebody else's life? I still am 1 of 62 in the entire UK who was allowed the medication. Another thing I find extremely distressing having to go cap in hand for medication that should be given without jumping through bureaucracy and postcode lottery hoops. The NHS is failing and unless they open their eyes a see that people do actually live longer and more people are alive than in 1945 and the money needed is a damn sight more than they give. I nearly lost my daughter whilst she was giving birth due to the incompetence of the nursing staff not doing their jobs correctly. She ended up fitting and losing 4 pints of blood. So whilst I agree for the most part the Nurses do an exceptional job under real pressure and are not paid what they are worth not all of the NHS is perfect especially when it comes to midwifery :)

    That's very true, but it's a result of (1) NICE and their ludicrously delayed judgements on whether to licence a new drug, and it's so often "No", and (2) despite their - I would say criminal - assertions to the contrary, the government cuts in real terms to the NHS budgets. Far from failing, I think the staff who are there do a heroic job in the face of their greedy bungling paymasters.

    There will always be tragic failures, that's for sure. But if you look at how many people are treated by an understaffed, under-budget health service, you have to feel nothing but admiration. Add to that a population who are getting ever more like the States in matters of obesity, drink, drug abuse, lack of exercise, poor diets etc, and really we should give out medals to the health professionals.

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  6. 7 minutes ago, zookeeperz said:

    Bit of an anomaly these are both reverse D coins I snapped together this morning there seems to be a difference in the design of the helmet. the top part one has a convex curve to the peak and the other a concave curve making one much more rounded?


    Wear would probably account for most of the differences (the left hand coin is even more worn than the right hand one). As for the convex vs concave, I would venture that it might be die wear rather than coin wear?

  7. As a frequent user (I have advanced MS) I can say that I have never had these experiences you speak of. In fact, the lamentable skills shortage will get much much worse after Brexit, and I've yet to meet an NHS professional who says different. We have QUALIFIED staff in the NHS from all over the world, but as soon as someone does an Enoch Powell (Nigel Farage, to name but one) look what we end up with. 

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  8. 16 hours ago, will1976 said:

    My latest unofficial farthings. The two with tickets are from the Cockanye collection, which was bought by Baldwins around 1946. Are the tickets worthy of the 'ticket central' thread with them being tokens rather than coins?

    Was that a member of the same tribe that Spike Milligan reported on?

  9. 3 hours ago, DrP said:

    That being said, you do hear some horror stories...  although in an organisation that big there will always be errors and misplacements. I think they are great - I won't get into the politics of funding it, lol. I don't think it should be privatised though, we should pay what we need to to keep it going, you never know who will need it and when. 

    Agreed. The LibDems proposed penny on income tax purely for the NHS seems like a bargain - especially now that personal allowances are £11k and rising.

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  10. It may or may not have been for photographic purposes. Nevertheless, it was a specimen strike prior to its becoming the new obverse halfway through the 1921 issue, and being the only example of its kind dated 1920, went into the Museum. AFAIK it never went into circulation until the 1921 issue.

    However I take your point, and unique specimens have been identified in more recent times, for example the 1953 penny with George VI reverse, and the 1952 proof penny. Bun varieties are still being uncovered.

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  11. 45 minutes ago, zookeeperz said:

    We are less concerned with such minor variations but having said that if we took that approach for every coin the 1920 penny with colon dots to tooth would of been overlooked as just an anomaly. 

    Not a minor variation - it's the new obverse and quite possibly unique for 1920. As the known example is in the (?British?) Museum, it has never been overlooked.

  12. I'd agree. Mis-strikes are interesting but not worthy of cataloguing except perhaps in a very exclusive and specialist publication. They are unique but not valuable as other collectors can't acquire another example. The only ones I've seen that are noteworthy are brockages, though there are also those who regard strikes on a different metal / planchet as collectible.

  13. 10 hours ago, DrP said:

    "VF is a comparatively misunderstood grade that has actually changed over the years. Back in the 60s it was defined (I paraphrase) as "visible wear only to the highest points of the design"

    That's how I often see EF defined now and what I would use for grading. I think everyone suffers a bit of unconscious bias when grading their own coins too. Even if you think you don't. :-)   

    EF used to be defined as "very slight wear to the highest points only visible under magnification or close inspection" - the difference there being that VF was immediately visible while EF required some degree of peering. But one person's "slight wear" was another's "noticeable wear", so pictures - as in Derek's book - are everything.

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  14. 1 hour ago, Guest gaz said:

    hi i have a load off old coins dating back to the 1930's or earlier as haven't got through them all yet one is a 1937 coin are they worth anything in today's market as the net doesn't really help with all these other ones says coins worth £5k or more.

    PROBABLY not worth anything much (if it's the average accumulation of predecimal coins). But any silver coin dated before 1947 is 50% real silver, and before 1920 is sterling silver.

    (Best to start a new thread than piggyback on an old one).

  15. 1 hour ago, Paddy said:

    Alternatively on Chrome, if you log on using a gmail account you can set it to synchronise all - then if you lose everything, when you log back into Chrome on a new machine it automatically reloads all your bookmarks, browsing history, stored passwords - the lot. Came to my rescue when my machine went dulally last week.


    Same with iCloud on Macs - though I do find Apple a tad less 'snoopy' than Google.

  16. I very much doubt if a coin would degrade to VF through being stored in a folder. If handled significantly, then it could go down to EF+ but pictures would help us.

    VF is a comparatively misunderstood grade that has actually changed over the years. Back in the 60s it was defined (I paraphrase) as "visible wear only to the highest points of the design", and it was strictly interpreted by the top dealers. However, there has to be a clear divide between EF and VF to account for difference in values. I would say that VF shows the complete design but can appear a bit 'blurry' due to the wear to - e.g. lions' faces, garter motto, monarch's hair, etc. If you want pictorial guidance, then invest in Derek's book on grading British coins as shown in the banner ad, top.

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