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  1. 4 hours ago, PWA 1967 said:

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1954-Florin-Two-Shillings-Lustrous-Choice-UNC-Rare-thus-British-Elizabeth-11/332608994455?hash=item4d710a7c97:g:T9AAAOSwve1aw98C

    Its gone now Peck although i think it was better than this one thats just been listed ,wish i could look at it to compare for you.

    Interesting reading the description as John also seems to think they are worth £25.

    That's a shame. :( Yes, I would have been interested as I don't have an example of one of the rarer Elizabeth II florins (1954, 1957/58/59). I would say £25 is conservative; scarce UNC 50s florins and halfcrowns were massively hyped in the late 60s, but florins continued to circulate until 1992 so the scarce UNC dates are indeed rarer than the equivalent halfcrowns, and now their values are AT LEAST 50% higher than the halfcrowns. The main reason for the rarity is that no-one collected the early years of CuNi as there was no silver content, unlike Geo VI which were put aside in large quantities, especially after the metal change was announced postwar; this is why 1944-46 are so common in BU.

    If you've got similar 1950s florins, let me know the dates and I might be interested!

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  2. PMD? - if you look very carefully there are marks on the O at the top, and there also appears to be some faint marking on the G bottom, and the scratch seems to have been deflected by the curve of the G. What's more, the scratch inside the G seems lighter than the scratch across the portrait. If the damage had been present before striking, you would expect to see consistency either side of the legend.

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  3. 23 hours ago, PWA 1967 said:

    Thats another good reason for passing them on Peck you dont have to look at my crap pictures :D

     

    If it's UNC it's pretty scarce and I'd be interested.


  4. 11 hours ago, Chingford said:

    I have seen it reported that there were circa 600 New Pence 2 pence in the sets,

    There have been sterling silver year sets that have been issued by the RM, I had a 1996 set where all the coins were 0.925, could be some of these are being broken and sold individually for large profits

    Hence my question about the date - 1996 was the 25th anniversary set of decimals and every coin from 50p down to penny was silver, so if it's dated 1996 it's not rare.


  5. 9 hours ago, zookeeperz said:

    There is another article in which a Stamp collecting dealer poo poo's the existence of silver 2 pences struck in error. Should stick to the business he knows rather than comment as if an authority when he clearly doesn't know as much as he thinks and debunks them as myths. Plenty of articles on these coins and all verified by the royal mint . If memory serves the last one sold for £1300. :) I think it sometimes becomes a case of the green eyed monster because someone hasn't seen one or doesn't own one it therefore must be fake? queer as folk are sometimes. Been down that road as well lol

     

    What date was it?


  6. 10 hours ago, jelida said:

    To answer Pecks earlier question re the non-continuation of the RE obverse, perhaps the damaged master die was deemed to require replacement, and rather than going back to the individual punches to build up a fresh master, they simply returned to the previous non RE master to produce the next generations of working dies.

    That seems a bit odd. Mind you, it all depends exactly WHY they tried the experiment. It could well have been to try and eliminate the 'ghosting' effect on the reverse, which it failed to do. What it DID do however, is to ensure that Britannia was fully struck up, avoiding the flattening to face and upper body which the non-RE obverse was causing. So you could say it was a partial success.

    I wouldn't have thought that a single broken tooth would have caused them to abandon the experiment, but then again, in 1916 the nation had a lot more to think and worry about than how well struck up pennies were.


  7. 2 minutes ago, bagerap said:

    Shouldn't that 1905 be mint darkened?

    Yes it should. But quite a few Edward farthings were artificially lustred, presumably to pass as half sovs. This particular one may have been gilded specially to go into the holder, i.e. to make it look more attractive?


  8. 2 hours ago, InforaPenny said:

    In my opinion, this variety is from multiple dies that were produced using a puncheon (or hub) with a chipped tooth. It doesn't seem plausible to me that this could be due to a filled die...

    I don't have sufficient technical knowledge to answer this but ... would a punch with a slightly broken tooth get worse over time? I'm assuming that a punch doesn't use any more force than a strike (maybe even less?) and that it shouldn't deteriorate during the making of a few dozen dies?


  9. 9 minutes ago, blakeyboy said:

    I don't understand this at all.

    There is a clear enough picture, with a '3' that has no damage or bits missing, 

    That is because there are now two pictures that show the date clearly. They weren't there yesterday.


  10. 30 minutes ago, terrysoldpennies said:

    That's with unworn coins, I have a couple that are worn, and its very obvious as the ear is totally untouched  with the rest of the head badly worn.

    That is so true, and is the reason why I doubt the "one die" theory. One die would be used for approximately 50,000 coins, right? That means - with two penny dates involved - a single die would be a very scarce variety. Yet I remember when collecting as a schoolboy late 60s, quite a lot of recessed ears came up; I didn't think anything of them, believing them just to be an eccentric wear pattern rather than a variety, but far more than would be accountable from a single die. 


  11. 45 minutes ago, will1976 said:

    If the coin is genuine I can't understand why he doesn't post better pictures....surely this would aid the sale. For the few bits I sell on the bay I always try to get the best possible picture

    As for price he's clearly having a laugh! :D

    IF. From the faint image I saw of the '3', it may not be an open 3, but we'll have to wait and see... or not!


  12. Hmm, I'm not so sure about the single die theory. My 1915 has a very severely damaged tooth (see below) which is only present on the 1916s above. 

    1915 RE penny obv.jpg

     

     

    The real question is - since the amended obverse worked to eliminate the flattening of Britannia even on BU examples of the unamended obverse - why didn't they persist with it?


  13. 8 hours ago, freewheels said:

    Also any comments on my TPG comments. I am not a big slabber and generally unexcited by the concept, however I think this crown needs to be attributed correctly and so to that point?:

    Do you think LCGS, NGC or PCGS???

    Here's your problem: LCGS are not satisfactory due to their conflict of interest (they will grade lower than other TPGs unless selling it themselves); NGC and PCGS might not pick up on what is a fairly obscure variety, especially as you want possible unrecorded further details attributed. You'd probably be better off submitting it to an expert in the field for comment, rather than a TPG.

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  14. 4 hours ago, hibernianscribe said:

    I too have done this, I've pointed out to them that since they have applied a reserve on this outstandingly obvious fake and regardless of their non-committal description, they are blatantly unethical and intentionally trying to deceive! 

    :angry:Frank

    Me too. It's not a genuine GV penny with date altered (those might well go for £200 on eBay). It's a replica 'fantasy' penny sold in recent years, and there are enough pointers to this - the portrait, the width of the rim and length of teeth, the 'near but not quite' Britannia - that any genuine collector wouldn't be fooled. Let's hope the poor sap who's bidding £200 realises their mistake and discovers that those replicas cost around £20 (?) new.


  15. 11 hours ago, zookeeperz said:

    Agreed I would be lost without my photoscape. Even to do that 1/2 degree rotation to straighten the coin up is so valuable for picture presentation. Most programs don't do such small rotations. I would recommend it to anyone especially being a free program:D

    In Mac's iPhoto or Photos, you can rotate in 0.6º increments. I've never found the 0.1º difference to be observable!

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