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Posts posted by TomGoodheart
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The lines you see on the obverse are die polishing. Basically the soft blank die is filed smooth before the design is struck into it. You can check because the lines appear to run continuously under the design.
Value, I'm afraid hammered gold isn't my area. I'd grade the coin at gF - nVF Looks like a pleasant example (at least compared with comparable hammered silver coins such as shillings of the same period. But then those were circulated much more and less care seems to have been taken in their manufacture!) At auction somewhere between £1000-£1400 I'd guess, although I'm happy to be corrected on that! Of course, 'worth', ... well, you might say its worth is whatever someone is prepared to pay for it! -
1 hour ago, mrbadexample said:Someone's going to be upset with that one.
To be honest, I kinda hope so. That sort of stupidity deserves a reward of some kind ....
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Hi Barnzy. Welcome. While I agree, in the long run it's better from a resale (and more satisfying, I think, from an aesthetic) perspective in buying the best grades you can, there's also something to be said for handling a bit of history! So why not buy a cheap 'pocket' piece' you can carry about and show people and a few other better grade coins to start with?
Coins were produced in huge numbers for the Jubilee (1887) and are generally inexpensive. Something like a half crown is fairly chunky to carry about and researching prices will give you a bit of a feel for coin grades.Jut remember, you can always post pictures or links here before buying and ask for people's opinions. It might save some mistakes, although it has to be said we all make them and it's part of the learning to collect process. The idea is to keep your mistakes cheap (or at least within budget!)
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13 minutes ago, Guest Joanne said:Hi I have 23 one penny coins ranging from 1799 to 1967 do you know if there worth something
Thank you
To be honest Joanne, most coins that were just 'accumulated' (ie picked out of change years ago) aren't worth much at all. So many were produced that there are still examples of common years that are just as the day they were made and that's the condition collectors really want.
Of course, without looking it's impossible to say for certain. But many people seem to find or inherit coins from relatives and unless they were in particularly good condition or actually purchased by a collector most don't have much value. I have boxes and boxes of coins my Dad collected from change and they are all pretty much worthless I'm sorry to say.
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AU50? Good grief.
PCGS only gave this a VF30 grade. Which is largely why nowadays I go by eye appeal and tend to ignore other people's grading when buying. -
HULETT Dr J
Collector. Collection sold posthumously through DNW Sept 2017 and subsequently.
Roughly octagonal cut paper. Neat hand. Ticket to the right is a Baldwin's ticket in the hand of Michael Sharp. -
MORRIS. A.
Collector. Large collection of Charles I silver sold through the dealer Lloyd Bennett over several years.
Characteristic white card with underlining in red ink. 31mm. -
LYALL. R.
Collector of WI cut/ countermarked coins, Lancashire/Cheshire tokens and Charles I silver, particularly shillings by variety.
Chas I collection sold through DNW Nov 2015, Mar 2016, Dec 2016.White, 32mm.
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Sharp. M. B.
Collector of Charles I (primarily shillings) and subsequently worked at Baldwins (to whom he sold his collection) and then DNW.
(I believe this is a Baldwins ticket in his hand. 807 was Michael's client number at Baldwins) Lined card. 34mm. -
At first glance it looks OK to me Declan. Weight should confirm it (around 2g) but nothing screams 'replica' to me.
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Personally, I'm just not seeing the coins I want, in the grades I want Rob. I rather assumed that anyone with nicer pieces was either holding on to them, or perhaps selling privately. More likely the former.
Maybe we need another collection or two coming to the market, however when I consider Bob L's coins, or even Alan Morris', the proportion of coins I'd really like to own as opposed to the overall number, was still small. I guess that's the problem with a 'maturer' collection .. I'm on the hunt for either nicer coins or the scarcer ones. However whereas in the past it was finances (or lack or willingness to spend the necessary) that limited acquisitions, now it's simple lack of material.
And of course, that fuels the problem. Until I can upgrade what I have, I don't wish to part with any of my coins. In fact, if possible and unlike previously, I would prefer to add further to the collection without necessarily disposing of existing coins. But that means I have little to sell, ... assuming there are even specialist collectors in my field any more to buy what I have to offer..
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Someone is going to be very unhappy in a few days ...
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1 hour ago, Rob said:Thank you.
Can you also edit the Norweb one to read surname first? Ta.
Afraid my powers don't appear to allow me to edit posts Rob. Maybe @Nordle if he sees this?
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Not sure how easy it is for Admins to reorder a thread (Chris or Matt might be able to), but I've pinned it so it will be easily found.
OK, it appears I can remove comment posts from the Ticket thread and put them here to keep the 'original' tidy, so there's a result!
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Good stuff!
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1 hour ago, declan03 said:Good morning guys.
Well, eventually received the ruling from ebay this morning. Would you believe they ruled in favour of the seller? With a small footnote stating that the seller described the item accurately. Case closed.
I am on holiday just now but they have not heard the last of this.
More later.
Message sent.
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I wrote to him on 13 June:
"Sadly, your friend's item is a copy worth a couple of £
The plough mark unfortunately erases where the coin was stamped COPY, hence his confusion"I sent him a link to the Dorchesters listing too. Hopefully you'll have no problem getting your money back.
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2 hours ago, Pavel said:Yes, I definitely need lots of images (and not only of the bronze coinage - silver and gold too). I have been using the web site of Museums Victoria (Melbourne) - they have generously allowed republishing under a CC licence; but their collection has some strange gaps. They inherited the archive of the Melbourne branch of the Royal Mint which got lots of specimens sent to it, so if you search their collections you can find amazing stuff (like some 1840s patterns). And then, they either lack some very common coins, or they have an example which they purchased - in terrible grade :-(
Are you looking at 'just' milled coinage Pavel? Because I've noticed that in the hammered section identification is very basic ..probably based on whatever information the original collector gave the coin before it was donated.
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The F. Elmore Jones Collection of English Coins. (Glendining). Auction (12 May 1971) – Anglo-Saxon Silver Pennies // Auction (13 April 1983) – Norman and Plantagenet Coins, Part I // Auction (10 April 1984) – Norman and Plantagenet Coins, Part II.
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Having accumulated Noble Investments, Baldwin's, Dreweatts & Bloomsbury Auctions and Malletts, as well as several additional philatelic interests and even gotten into wine dealing, it appears the beast requires feeding even more money to fuel expansion.
Remarkable. And ... who the heck is going to buy it? Or will they, having spent years in acquisitions, break apart?An odd business strategy to my mind .. Views anyone?
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In the absence of images if you can read and tell us the legends on the reverse (non-head side) it might help a bit ..
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Goodness, that's a puzzle Rob! My thought are that the crosses (?) inside the crown might be a useful indicator. In the first image and one on the green background they are more like open triangles. The others, they are filled in, suggesting to me some wear. Then possibly focus on the hair as it touches the crown. For example the small pic from a catalogue (top of second post) suggests some die fill/ wear in that area to me.
Be easier if there were some obvious progressive die cracks but, beggars can't be choosers in these things! If that helps at all? -
Just to let you know I've hidden your slightly over the top post Prep ( and I'm afraid 1949's quote of it).
I appreciate some members have a blunt way of putting things that isn't too everyone's taste but I feel the response was a bit disproportionate.
That aside this thread seems useful, particularly the discussions about cleaning, so if everyone has calmed down, feel free to carry on...
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Charles I unite, opinion wanted
in British Hammered
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Yes, seen on silver too. See the obverse of this shilling: