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Diaconis
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23 minutes ago, azda said:Didn’t realise Heaton did the dies, interesting
I got the date wrong AZDA, 1897. Here's an excerpt from Stacks;
"Commissioned in 1897, the Heaton mint produced a series of six coins, five silver and one brass, as proposed patterns or trial strikes of the eventual adopted design for the Nanking mint. A full set of dies and a small number of proofs were sent along with the minting equipment after completion. Upon arrival the Nanking mint began production using the supplied dies.
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Design by Heaton mint in 1870's for Nanking province, dies were shipped over to China.
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37 minutes ago, Nick said:Looks ok to me. The 't's in tenth on 1859 florins look recut (or otherwise malformed).
i stand corrected😉
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At first sight looks like a fake to me.
- the ‘t’s in tenth also make me suspicious, not pointed as original.
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15 hours ago, Diaconis said:Thanks Rob
Rob,
I read through Seaby bulletins 59-62, (62 is written on the ticket). Seaby Stock numbers are different from the 5 digit stamp and generally start with a letter followed by 4 numbers. Any suggestions?
thanks
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14 hours ago, 1949threepence said:Utter disgrace
Too right, that’s an expensive wooden box. Never looked at Danbury Mint before, judging by their website they’re a Jack of all trades.
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5 hours ago, Rob said:The stamped numbers were Seaby stock numbers - so in csae of finding one of these you need to start looking in the Bulletin from 1959 onwards.
Thanks Rob
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LINGFORD, H M
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R.C.Carlyon-Britton
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3 hours ago, Rob said:Said it was somewhere safe - hidden along with Ricardo Paolucci, Italo Vecchio and Sworders.
Lot 2266 sold for 660 hammer (10% prem), but I don't have the buyer's name. It was graded EF in the catalogue. The coin is probably the one listed in the December 1958 Circular as 8572, FDC £10/10/- if 210/- refers to the price which would be 10 guineas.
TCX price code? T=7, C is 100, X=4? The all in price at Neales was £735.90, plus postage if not collected.
Rob,
Excellent ! Thanks so much for taking the time to find the catalogue and provide the information, i’m very grateful and happy to know more about the coin’s provenance. It’s been lying in my cabinet since 2003. I bought it on ebay of all places, from a seller in Chester-le-Street, Co Durham. He had some quality coins for sale at he time.
When i bought it there were no references to the Neales sale to be found on the web and for several years after. Having checked again this week I did find a couple of coins recently sold by DNW mentioning the Neales sale.
I’m sure i’d have had a struggle to locate the catalogue since, as you mentioned earlier, it was a provincial auction and long before internet auctions so am very glad you had a copy buried away.
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On 4/5/2019 at 9:11 AM, Rob said:Tanenbaum was a good sale with a lot of quality material and one of those provincial auctions that tend to slip under the radar. The auction was held in Nottingham. I can't lay my hands on the catalogue at the moment, but will look later on tonight.
Thank you Rob, very helpful as usual.
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The seller also has a 1707 Queen Anne Edinburgh crown for sale. Looks rather suspect too.
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Can anyone help with identifying ticket writer and provenance? Neales 91? TCX? Tanenbaum?
thank you
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3 minutes ago, Rob said:It's the way it should be as virtually all those involved in the coin trade are upstanding folk of good character.
hear hear
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Just read this interesting article in Coin news and was fascinated by the history of the coin in question and impressed by the commendable act of Auction house Künker in returning same to the cabinet in Weimar.
https://www.coinsweekly.com/en/News/Alchemical-Gold-Coin-Back-in-Weimar/4?&id=5985
I must say that, having purchased several coins from them them in the past, their packaging and service is also second to none.
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25 minutes ago, secret santa said:Wow - this could be a unique striking....
Wow indeed. I thought I’d check her other items to see if she had other rarities, I wasn’t disappointed. Sarah’s other offering to the numismatic fraternity at this time is a £2 coin which she’ll let go for £46. i think she may need to brush up on her braille.
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35 minutes ago, Ukstu said:
Does it come in a box?
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9 hours ago, Paulus said:Just when I thought I'd seen it all, here's a NGC designation I had not seen before - DPL. In case you cannot guess, it stands for 'Deep Proof Like'.
Could there be a Geordie grading centre, like?
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Copy of the Portland vase?
reminds me of an old b&w Alfred Hitchcock tv episode, think it was called the Cheney vase or something like that. The moral of which is more valid today, i.e look after the old folks.😉
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18 minutes ago, Sword said:I think modern issues usually do badly in the secondary market with the exception of those which are able to "strike a cord" with the public. I don't honestly think this Wedgwood has any chance of doing well. Who cares about Wedgwood? At least seeing the Gruffalo or Snowman can make someone smile and hence they have got some potential.
Maybe the limited mintage issues target specific but smaller markets. This wasn’t meant to appeal to the masses, it doesn’t have to do well, just sell out.
There are most definitely people who can appreciate Josiah Wedgwood I’m sure of that. Check out the new World of Wedgewood museum in Barlaston and see his far reaching influence. Can’t see Gruffalo being revered in 250 yrs time but I may be wrong.
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The peach of a Chas. II 6d went for £10,000 w/out premium. Good prices at Spink today.
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Yes, that 1662 was a gem, though slightly inferior to the Spink plate.
When someone dressed in a dinner suit and bow tie starts offering you coins you just know deep down that it will be an expensive evening😂
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Off on a slight tangent here but this discussion reminds me of the fascinating but unattributed pattern half-crown of 1651 (ESC 68 (445D) that found the temerity to show its face for the first time in over 300 years in the Jess Peters Fixed Price List of August 1971. Never before mentioned in any reference book nor auction catalogue prior to that date, and though it took a little longer to surface than the base Yorks, of similar dubious origin I suspect.
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1 minute ago, Coinery said:Just taking your last two points, would a collector in the late 1700s be interested in imitation pieces? Unless they were intended to fool back then? Seems a very advanced forgery for the time?
I agree with you there. I can't see the gap being filled for the 'collector' as an imitation and as you say unless intended to deceive, as new variety being discovered. Would be of interest to see the prices paid for them at that time and if it reflected this.
The Question of the Faulty Rocker Press
in British Hammered
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Rob, not much information but it may be of some interest. I'm sure you'll find the site most interesting if you don't already know of it.
https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/worcs/vol3/pp408-412