Colin G. Posted April 17, 2007 Posted April 17, 2007 Opinions wanted on one of my 1806 farthings, it has no "K" on the shoulder as is found on the currency farthings. The area is completely smooth, even under magnification no trace. I have seen them weak, but I have never seen an example without the incuse K other than the known ones (incuse dot, 3 raised dots etc.)Anyone have any opinions?1806 Farthing Quote
Jamesred Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 I have had a look at mine, i have K's on my 3. Havent enough of these yet. I haven't really looked at any of mine Pre 1821, just trying to sort out from then to 1956 which isnt as easy as i thought. Quote
Teg Posted April 19, 2007 Posted April 19, 2007 Hi Colin,As you say the K can be very hard to spot. On by best 1806 you can only see it if the angle of light is absolutely correct. The die used for your coin seems quite worn. There is a flaw on the drapery coming down from the brooch.I think I would want to see an Unc specimen from sharp dies before calling it a variety.Have a look at the brooch, currency farthings have 7 jewels. Some appear to have less, and others have a very small, weak top jewel. I almost persuaded myself that this was a design type. On further reflection probably not.Lastly, do you see any variations with the ship on the Rev?TEG Quote
Colin G. Posted April 19, 2007 Author Posted April 19, 2007 Hi Colin,As you say the K can be very hard to spot. On by best 1806 you can only see it if the angle of light is absolutely correct. The die used for your coin seems quite worn. There is a flaw on the drapery coming down from the brooch.I think I would want to see an Unc specimen from sharp dies before calling it a variety.Have a look at the brooch, currency farthings have 7 jewels. Some appear to have less, and others have a very small, weak top jewel. I almost persuaded myself that this was a design type. On further reflection probably not.Lastly, do you see any variations with the ship on the Rev?TEG Quote
Colin G. Posted April 19, 2007 Author Posted April 19, 2007 Hi Colin,As you say the K can be very hard to spot. On by best 1806 you can only see it if the angle of light is absolutely correct. The die used for your coin seems quite worn. There is a flaw on the drapery coming down from the brooch.I think I would want to see an Unc specimen from sharp dies before calling it a variety.Have a look at the brooch, currency farthings have 7 jewels. Some appear to have less, and others have a very small, weak top jewel. I almost persuaded myself that this was a design type. On further reflection probably not.Lastly, do you see any variations with the ship on the Rev?TEGHi Colin,As you say the K can be very hard to spot. On by best 1806 you can only see it if the angle of light is absolutely correct. The die used for your coin seems quite worn. There is a flaw on the drapery coming down from the brooch.I think I would want to see an Unc specimen from sharp dies before calling it a variety.Have a look at the brooch, currency farthings have 7 jewels. Some appear to have less, and others have a very small, weak top jewel. I almost persuaded myself that this was a design type. On further reflection probably not.Lastly, do you see any variations with the ship on the Rev?TEGThe brooch does only seem to have 6 jewels, but I could also persuade myself there could be a very weak 7th. The shoulder drapery where the K is normally positioned is also different from my other 1806 farthings. The area is generally a smooth recessed area between 2 raised ridges like a plan view of a canoe shape (if that makes sense ) this one has only the raised ridge to the top, with the area then grading into the field of the coin, perhaps there was some form of fill in the die in this area.The ship is similar to the others with three main sails and a separate small sail to the front. But it does appear in finer detail than my others, the 3 ropes to each sail are very clear and then one rope from the rear of the ship to rear sail (Forgive my poor sailing terminology - sails and ropes )Into the possible variety pile for this one, with the others!! Quote
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