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Obviously I had a problem posting the second picture. Here it is. Perhaps I should have posted the reverse of the coin, but I don't want to reply a second time to my own posting. Referring to the pictures in "Coincraft's 1997" it should be a coin from the London Mint.

Actually I'm a collector of Pennies from 1797 to 1967, but I own a few silver pennies. I tried to identify one of them tonight. I think, I'm close to the answer, but I'm not sure. As far as I can see, it's a Henry III longcross Penny, and I think it should be Class Va or Vb. Referring to Spink (Numbers 1367 and 1368) the differences between those two is, that the Class Vb Penny has a narrower face, a wedge tailed R (instead of a Ball-tailed R) and round eyes. Well, in lack of comparison I can`t say, whether the face is narrower or not, I don't have any idea, what a wedge-tail R or a Ball-tailed R is and: round eyes instead of what? - I posted two pictures of the obverse of that coin. Perhaps you will laugh, when you see, how I try to identify my coin. But as a amateur in that discipline, it is helpfull. - Perhaps somebody can help me. Holger

Hi Chris Nice to hear you're living next door. I can't remember Gary mentioned that. Don't worry about your Penny-offers, I'm patient. S.y.s. Holger

I think, you are right. As you have a far colon 1847 penny with a similar bold colon after britanniar as I have, the faint dots seem to be a "problem", that concerns only the near colon variety of that date. Perhaps my coin is one, that has been strucked comparatively late with the same die, so the dots are even weaker as in the first strucks. And although my coin is in a quite good condition, it was more used than yours. Thanks! Holger

Hi, Chris Thank you for your kind question. I was born in Mainz near Frankfurt, but now live in Weimar in Eastern Germany. I´m sure you are interested, how I came to your website. It was Gary Brettman, who gave me the hint, you know him. In the early 70s I spent every summer holiday in England - a teenager at that time - and I started to collect a few pennies. It was just after the decimalisation and I did'nt understand the old currency at all, but a few of these pennies were fascinating old. About three years ago I started again collecting pennies, and Gary answered patiently about 1000 questions - a few less perhaps - in a similiar perfect manner as Bob and Red Riley did in my first forum-question. Anyway, I'm glad Gary gave me the hint to your website, I bought your great catalogue last year and I'm working with it as a standard, although I own the Spink catalogue and the Peck (and others too). - I'm afraid, I have answered more questions than you have asked, haha. But German penny-collectors are as scarce as an 1849 penny (in fact even scarcer than a 1933 penny, I'm afraid), so it might have been of interest. Be sure, you will meet me more often in your forum and as regular buyer of your catalogue. See you soon Holger

Hi Bob and Hi Red Riley, thank you very much for your quick and high interesting answers. Well: Peck says, that all varieties he is listing from Number 1479 downwards have all for colons unless otherwise stated. So Bob is obviously right, a non colon behind Britanniar variety is not listed there. But the reply of Red Riley brought me in doubt, if there are really no colons, so I´m posting now two other pictures, made under the microscope (so you can see, my equipment is much better than my coin collection, haha). The first one concerns the coin, we are talking about. I´m still not sure about the existence of dots, but Red Riley might be right. The other picture is made from my second 1847 penny. This a a far colon after DEF variety in only fine condition all in all. But the dots behind Britanniar are truely good visible, aren`t they? So, thanks once again and: What do you think now? Holger

Hi! I'm a German collector of British One Penny coins. About 3 years ago I started as a date runner for Pennies from 1797 to 1967, but now I'm mostly interested in the Victorian Pennies including all the varieties. I have just checked one of my two 1847 pennies - at the first look a common near colon after DEF variety -, but then I recognized, that there are no dots behind Britanniar on the reverse. I couldn`t find this variety (if is is one) in my catalogues (at first of course I had a look at the catalogue of Chris -2007-), but I failed. The coin is in a quite good condition, so I can`t believe, the dots have vanished by use. - So, I would like to ask the experts in this forum, if somebody has any idea to that coin. Great forum, Chris! Holger P.S. I' ve tried to post two small pictures, but I'm not sure, it it had worked