1949threepence

Just wanted to make an interesting point about these concerning the price, as we were discussing them last night in Mrbadexample's thread. A couple of years ago I bought some old "Coin Monthly" magazines from Rob, and in one of them, from December 1972, I noticed that they were being sold even back then. One of the popular cabinets still going today, called "The Pheon" then sold for £17.50. Today it costs - for the Standard model - £360.00. Over the same period inflation, which has averaged 5.9% per annum, takes it to £208.28, so a big increase over and above inflation. Here's a pic of the ad:- Of course, that over and above inflation increase may have something to do with the type of wood being used. Back then it was "obeche", whereas now it is mahagony. Don't know.

Excellent point.

Pure quality. I would 100% recommend him - and he's not as expensive as the people who took over from Peter Nichols. He's not quick. I ordered my cabinet on 12th January, so it took him over 2 months. But well worth the wait.

Probably a lot of then weren't even born at the time, and are just spouting unthought out rubbish without ever checking the facts from the time. If they were old enough to have been there at the time, there's even less excuse for not remembering - for example - the 1973 oil price hike.

Can anybody here afford it?

Well if the bids start racking up, then we'll know several have fallen for it. He should make absolutely sure before stating what he thinks it is, or else say he is not certain. I will allow him a little leeway in the honesty stakes, as I know the 1861 die combinations are not the easiest to get the measure of.

....I nearly did....

So anyway I did decide to order a new cabinet from Rob Davis. I ordered a single door cherry wood version with small trays. Rob actually delivered it in person today. I have to say I'm really pleased with it, and it immediately solves an increasing space problem. Somewhat irritatingly, I've misplaced a coin I bought recently - the 1913 F174. Christ knows where that's got to. Anyway, here are pictures:-

Ah, a 1933 penny. The description and back story is amusing. link

Irrigation?

Simple. When you click on the chain box to insert a link, you obviously copy and paste the web address in the top box. Then if you leave the bottom box blank, all the link text you insert in the top box will appear in your post. To avoid this, you type something in the bottom box, like "link" or whatever, and that is what will then appear in the post, as your link to click on.

Very interesting - the coin would have been in circulation for 29 years at that point, and given that pennies in those days would have seen orders of magnitude more circulation than pennies these days, that level of wear looks plausible. Somebody will undoubtedly buy it. How much for is anybody's guess. What slightly surprises me is that the family are willing to let it go - that raises slight suspicions in my mind that it might all be a fake story. BY the way, was that an actual sketch from Only Fools and Horses? If so, i'm even more suspicious.

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It's coin collecting Jim, but not as we know it.....

van Dijk is a world class player. Defender, creator and goal scorer. The entire process has degenerated into a total farce. I don't know about just TM losing her authority, I'd personally have to question whether the entire assembled parliament has lost both authority and any semblance of national credibility.

Cigarette vending machines - wow. Imagine the furore if they were ever re-introduced. But they clearly satisfied a need at those times when smokers were desperate for a cigarette and the shop was closed. Of course underage kids would also easily be able to buy them from the machine as well. I've seen one of those 5p or shilling meters at a working museum somewhere. If I remember correctly, you pushed the coin into a tight slot as far as it would go, where it would hold, until you turned a small lever clockwise to drop the coin in.

Yes, that's interesting. You'd have to immediately envisage the difference between the cost of the item, and the amount of change/notes proffered by the customer - and obviously it would very often be for articles costing under one pound/ten shillings. So if they gave you 4 shillings for something costing 3/11, it would just be the one penny. Slightly more complicated, but as soon as you were in the mindset of 12 pennies to the shilling and 20 shillings to the pound, you'd be OK. Were prices still marked up using halfpennies at that time? I've seen on old films the way change would be given to customers, with the shopkeeper handing back change and as he did so, verbally counting it up from the cost of the item, to the amount handed over by the customer. That way there could be no argument - very effective.

User name "costcutter" - you're 'avin a larf my son

I was a child in the 1980's and it didn't puzzle me. Not exactly rocket science, even at a very young age, to know that the two same sized coins meant the same amount, 5p and 10p - and it was explained to me what the distinction was, and the history behind them as well as the word "new", both by my parents and (at some point) at school. You only need to have something like that explained to you once, and it sticks for all time. It didn't actually make any difference to anybody, as I recall. Everybody knew what they were and it wasn't an issue. Not even a talking point. It may have confused some foreigners, possibly, but I'm sure they would soon have learnt what they were. By the way, what you quoted wasn't strictly accurate. He actually said: "However tourists and children were sometimes confused by these strange pre-decimal remnants"

Almost incredible that they would post their own video showing that. Is it ignorance, arrogance or stupidity?

I bet they will. Don't forget, we will be the ones at the begging bowl and they will be calling the tune. They're already peed off with us - understandably - so why wouldn't they make an article 50 extension difficult? They never wanted us to leave in the first place and you can be sure that they will only agree to a long extension, possibly to the end of 2021, with added strings. Wait and see. Great result. Didn't expect them to win at the Allianz to be honest. Very very few do. But Liverpool do have an exceptional team and a highly driven manager. Just like Man City, actually, and arguably the other two as well. Who, for instance, would have expected Man U to come back from a 2:0 home leg defeat? That means 4 English teams in the quarters.

I'll come back to you later. Right now I've turned over from the news to watch the Bayern - Liverpool Champions League match

That gives remain an unfair advantage. If you include remain in a second referendum, then the remain vote from 2016 will be broadly the same, but the leave vote will be split between the other two options. Given that we've already voted by a majority to leave, it should be two options only. The deal or leave with no deal.

Yep, democratic principles have been sold down the river, and the wishes of the electorate, trashed. In fairness to May, she has worked tirelessly to push Brexit through, but has sadly failed due to treacherous elements in her own party, the intransigent bigoted DUP, and the Labour party. Corbyn full well knows that there is nothing in the current deal which Labour disagrees with, yet he deliberately goes against it as he puts his own self interest ahead of the country's. The more I see of this guy, the more I dislike him. He's also a proven liar as he did mouth "stupid woman" in December, If he'd said "people" his lips would have touched twice, and they only touched once. Incidentally, an extension to article 50 is not a foregone conclusion. May will have to go back to the EU, cap in hand, to request beg for this, and they are likely to exact a heavy humiliating price for us to get it.

Parliament has shafted the country because they can't agree on anything. As the can has continually been kicked down the road, business is suffering, we are likely to see further transfers of business elsewhere, with consequential loss of employment, and the constant all pervading uncertainty which we are all enduring at the moment. May's deal isn't perfect, but life rarely is. It's all we're going to get from the EU. Although I suspect that many MP's, ministers and shadow ministers thought they would eventually dance to our tune. Arrogant beyond all belief.