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  2. Posted

    Another quick update:

    been to the house and checked out the lawn.  I identified the 'hollow' where I expected the coins / seals to be, then scanned the area with my metal detector.  The wold lawn returned some cracking signals, so where to start.... The owner allowed me to dig a few test pits... but unfortunately, these did not bring up any coins... just other junk my father must have buried over the years... brass bed knob, lump of lead, large copper pipe and a large mangled aluminium plate.... so no luck this time.

    Good news is, the couple are now hooked on the story as week and are keen to explore further - maybe a further survey, and maybe with Geophys... watch this space

    Andi

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    Well, over 2 weeks since I posted my letter to the house owner,,,, and today I get a call back. I guess curiosity finally got the best of him. After a brief conversation on the phone, he's agreed for me to go and discuss it further with him.... and he's agreed to share any find. Unfortunately I'm metal detecting on Cleethorpes beach this weekend, so I'll have to wait until next week.... I'm so excited about this.  

    I'll keep everyone posted and will put photos up when the dig starts 😊

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    Unfortunately, from my own experience, trading standards and action fraud, look at whether you have suffered a detriment as the result of the act.  so you'd have to have purchased something from these dealers,  and then prove you have suffered a financial loss.  Now looking at these ebay sales, if they state that they don't know what it is, and you buy what you see etc, then that's exactly what you've bought, an unknown item at a cost you agreed to pay.  If they describe the item as genuine, and you buy it believing it is as so, then you have a case, if it's not worth what you bought it for.  It is still difficult to prove fraud on it, and you'll be pointed to the dispute process where you can get your money back (if you can prove it). As posters on here have highlighted, these people are smart and don't make any claims to authenticity -  it's morally wrong... buyer beware 

     

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    12 hours ago, Sleepy said:

    The 2 indentations are caused by someone experimenting with hardness testers the round marks are caused by a Rockwell hardness tester and the triangular by a Vickers hardness tester, you can look up both in Wiki. I suspect some Engineering students playing around in the lab!

    Phill

    Absolutely,  something I did in my 80's apprentice days. We tested every coin just to show the difference in testers and results. 

  9. Posted

    Hi,

    I know nothing about this topic, but I googled and have found a reference to a Commodus 189AD Egyptian Roman coin that looks similar to the coin you have.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/COMMODUS-189AD-Alexandria-Egypt-Authentic-Ancient-Roman-Coin-EAGLE-NGC-i62694/232412699723?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D46089%26meid%3D077d6cbef4284c21abfe7856edb356b7%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D7%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D321909370757&_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850

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    16 minutes ago, Unwilling Numismatist said:

    If they were Roman (or any other significant type of treasure as deemed by the Treasure Act), they would be classed as a hoard and would need to be declared, as I guess they weren't previously disclaimed under the Treasure Trove law  (were they? ... paperwork required).

    If you can get permission I'd love to help!

    Its a great tale, it would be good to finally lay it to rest either way.

     

     

     

     

     

    Thanks, I'm assuming they were never declared / claimed, I'd have not idea - All I have as a lead is the property address - I don't know the name of the original tenant / finder. I'm going to have a look around the local museum and have a chat with someone there.  I'll keep you informed on any progress I make.

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    Hi chaps, I suppose a question for the metal detectorists. A 'very' hypothetical question.  If these coins were found to be Roman or the likes, would they be classed as treasure trove - considering they were first dug up 60ish years ago, and relocated?  This has really captured my imagination.  After a bit of investigation, the burial site is within a half a mile radius of; a Roman fort, an Iron-age fort, a Roman settlement and a major Roman road (the Fosse-way) [saying this, I expect almost everywhere in Britain could have the same claim]

    Thanks

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    5 minutes ago, argentumandcoins said:

    Everything sells  and everything has a value. If they are lead tokens from grain sacks etc the commercial value will be small. The real value is in the story and the mystique is it not?

    it is indeed. I'm just risk assessing if it's worth digging up someones garden in the middle of the night and getting arrested :) For lead, it's certainly not worth it, they can stay in the ground until the owners want to build an extension. 

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    5 minutes ago, argentumandcoins said:

    That's a mighty assumption re Roman. They could have been anything from ancient to Foreign (not forgetting tokens as mentioned by Pete). The most probable answer would be GB copper coinage as any bag at any auction always has the ubiquitous 1806 halfpenny, 1797 penny etc in it. Copper coins became obsolete in 1860 with the switch to the smaller and lighter bronze coins.

    Great, thanks for the information, this is fascinating.  Roman coins - yes, I'm probably dreaming. 

    I'm trying to understand why someone would have so many coins in one place. Surely if they had be a coin enthusiast, then they would have been stored better and if they were once legal tender to 1860, then why would someone not spend them / cash them in, before this couple happened upon them?  Also, I'm assuming that if they were copper coins, then this sort of quantity would have been worth a fair amount?

    Is there any value in farm tokens?     

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    Hello all,  I'm not a coin collector, but I am looking for some information on (British) coinage. 

    My father once told me a story of when he and my mother were first married and living in a farms tied cottage.  He told me that there was a elderly couple living next door, who had recently passed away.  Their family came to the cottage, cleared out what they wanted and left the rest telling my parents that they were welcome to take anything left as long as they tidied the house ready for the next tenant.  My parents being newly weds, took everything even if they needed it or not.  Whilst they were cleaning, my father noticed that a small alcove had been simply wall-papered over.  When he broke through the paper, he found approximately 8 -10 large glass sweet jars filled with old coins. As these were not legal tender, he didn't see any value and simply buried them in the garden along with other items deemed worthless.  This would have been circa 1958-60.  I believe they are still buried in the garden today.  Alas, they didn't stay in this cottage, so it's not as simple as digging them up to see.  

    So the question is, what do you think these coins are considering the large quantity of them and not being legal tender, therefore having no value?  I'm putting 2 and 2 together, thinking that they could be Roman - with them being farmers and the cottage being close to a roman road - what do you think?

    Thanks for any information.

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