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[Peckris 579]

The trips are run by Colchester detecting club.They offer accomodation ,food access to land. I did enquire for a days tuition with an experienced detectorist.

Well, that's EAST!! Any further East and it would be Holland

[Coinery 1,005]

The trips are run by Colchester detecting club.They offer accomodation ,food access to land. I did enquire for a days tuition with an experienced detectorist.

Well, that's EAST!! Any further East and it would be Holland

I know I for one would not be metal detecting there!

[Peckris 579]

The trips are run by Colchester detecting club.They offer accomodation ,food access to land. I did enquire for a days tuition with an experienced detectorist.

Well, that's EAST!! Any further East and it would be Holland

I know I for one would not be metal detecting there!

Better ways to spend your time in Amsterdam?

[Paulus 1,954]

The trips are run by Colchester detecting club.They offer accomodation ,food access to land. I did enquire for a days tuition with an experienced detectorist.

Well, that's EAST!! Any further East and it would be Holland

I know I for one would not be metal detecting there!

Better ways to spend your time in Amsterdam?

The good old 'visiting Anne Frank's House' used to work a treat with parents when I was a teenager!

[Coinery 1,005]

The trips are run by Colchester detecting club.They offer accomodation ,food access to land. I did enquire for a days tuition with an experienced detectorist.

Well, that's EAST!! Any further East and it would be Holland

I know I for one would not be metal detecting there!

Better ways to spend your time in Amsterdam?

The good old 'visiting Anne Frank's House' used to work a treat with parents when I was a teenager!

Last time I was there I did manage to catch the very impressive Rossetti Exhibition, AS WELL! Can't remember it, mind you!

[declanwmagee 122]

Last time I was there we sat against the neon sign on the top of a hotel overlooking the railway station and watched the sun come up on Hawaiian mushrooms...

[RLC35 288]

Bob

I would love it but we have a 20% population of the US and much lesser spending money.We still have a history and the ability to find 2,000 year old coins in the next field.

Peter, You are correct about the detecting of old coins. In fact, one of the members of the Muncie Coin Club, sponsors two (2) trips per year, with about 10 people each trip, and goes detecting for those coins you mention. They go 50-60 miles south of London, but I am not sure exactly where. They always find a lot of coins, though some are common. The only thing they don't like about the trip, is having to turn the coins over to the antiqities people for evaluation. It takes them 6 months to a year to get them back! Ha,Ha.

That'll be France then!

Nick I got a better idea of the location from my friend, about the detecting area, it was 18 miles East of Winchester! He also said he ran one of his tour groups with the Colchester Group, and was less than satisfied. He said they didn't find any coins! That was the only time he had his group book through Colchester.

[Nick 326]

Bob

I would love it but we have a 20% population of the US and much lesser spending money.We still have a history and the ability to find 2,000 year old coins in the next field.

Peter, You are correct about the detecting of old coins. In fact, one of the members of the Muncie Coin Club, sponsors two (2) trips per year, with about 10 people each trip, and goes detecting for those coins you mention. They go 50-60 miles south of London, but I am not sure exactly where. They always find a lot of coins, though some are common. The only thing they don't like about the trip, is having to turn the coins over to the antiqities people for evaluation. It takes them 6 months to a year to get them back! Ha,Ha.

That'll be France then!

Nick I got a better idea of the location from my friend, about the detecting area, it was 18 miles East of Winchester! He also said he ran one of his tour groups with the Colchester Group, and was less than satisfied. He said they didn't find any coins! That was the only time he had his group book through Colchester.

A nice part of the country, a rural area not far from the South Downs.

[Peter 615]

Colchester MD holidays have a great reputation.

Finds look great.

Sometimes you can search and find diddly.A bit like my experiences with beach fishing.I still do both and will continue.

It is like tracking down THAT coin you want.

[azda 978]

Ok, so i've submitted 3 coins to CGS so far, yesterday i had to phone and ask about the 1st one which was submitted on the 19th Feb and was sitting at "GRADE FINALISED" for over a week, after my call it has now gone to "PENDING ENCAPSULATION"

I paid 30 quid for the 30 day turnaround which has now run into overtime, so i do have issues with their 30 day theory.

2nd coin you can follow if you wish, it's been photographed and is at 1st stage grading, it's the 1935 raised edge proof (UIN 0026265) this was submitted on their website on the 20th March (their pictures look better than mine)

3rd is the 1763 Northumberland Shilling, submitted on their website on the 26th March, as yet it's not moved (i did'nt expect it to just yet)............UPDATE........Ummmmmm well that's blown me, this is at Grading level II UIN is 0026308 I'm just wondering if that's an ominus sign.

Edited March 27, 2013 by azda

[divemaster 11]

I love the 1935 crown, I think that may take the top slot or very near!!!!

[azda 978]

I love the 1935 crown, I think that may take the top slot or very near!!!!

I'm hoping to take top slot Martin, but i can see a hairline on the REV

[divemaster 11]

Missed the hairline, but beautiful coin, I have a 85 and an 88 logged, i wonder?

[divemaster 11]

Just looked at the tables they have two logged at 90!

[Paulus 1,954]

I wonder if I can detect the green shoots emerging of some healthy competition amongst our members on CGS grades achieved! I expect Bill will be reading with a big grin!

[azda 978]

The Northumberland is only there because of the amount of fakes of those coins, as you well know Paul. The 1935 is there because i thought it was good enough for a Crack at top spot. A 1935 in Spink today graded at PF63 by PCGS sold for £850 hammer

[Paulus 1,954]

The Northumberland is only there because of the amount of fakes of those coins, as you well know Paul. The 1935 is there because i thought it was good enough for a Crack at top spot. A 1935 in Spink today graded at PF63 by PCGS sold for £850 hammer

Just teasing!

[Coinery 1,005]

Ok, so i've submitted 3 coins to CGS so far, yesterday i had to phone and ask about the 1st one which was submitted on the 19th Feb and was sitting at "GRADE FINALISED" for over a week, after my call it has now gone to "PENDING ENCAPSULATION"

I paid 30 quid for the 30 day turnaround which has now run into overtime, so i do have issues with their 30 day theory.

2nd coin you can follow if you wish, it's been photographed and is at 1st stage grading, it's the 1935 raised edge proof (UIN 0026265) this was submitted on their website on the 20th March (their pictures look better than mine)

3rd is the 1763 Northumberland Shilling, submitted on their website on the 26th March, as yet it's not moved (i did'nt expect it to just yet)............UPDATE........Ummmmmm well that's blown me, this is at Grading level II UIN is 0026308 I'm just wondering if that's an ominus sign.

I remember just watching for weeks while a coin stagnated at a particular stage, surprising given they're not getting the numbers they'd like!

So does this mean the Northy is home and dry? I have to say, the ?plug isn't anything like as obvious in the images CGS have taken. Is it just a distorted crown arch instead?

Could be interesting!

That crown's truly beautiful! When they are that good, a tiny scratch feels like it's been hit with an axe.

[azda 978]

If it was plugged Stuart it would'nt get slabbed. Still not sure why it jumped straight from consigned to Level II grading though, time will tell.

[TomGoodheart 379]

Just out of interest I decided to register as you can't look at much information on the CGS website unless you do.

'League Tables'? 'Hall of Fame'? I'm sorry. Is this a professional service for numismatists or a video game?

I don't get it.

[Peckris 579]

Just out of interest I decided to register as you can't look at much information on the CGS website unless you do.

'League Tables'? 'Hall of Fame'? I'm sorry. Is this a professional service for numismatists or a video game?

I don't get it.

Having registered, you may well get the same email I did - telling us that CGS are changing over to a numeric-only scale of grading from now on. I emailed back to say I think their grading is wonderful but we don't all like slabs, and is this something they could address sometime soon?

[Rob 3,106]

Just out of interest I decided to register as you can't look at much information on the CGS website unless you do.

'League Tables'? 'Hall of Fame'? I'm sorry. Is this a professional service for numismatists or a video game?

I don't get it.

Nor do a lot of people. It is much to do with bragging rights - my average score is better than yours, nah nah nah nah nah etc. I would like to brag that I own one slabbed CGS coin - an 1826 proof shilling graded unc 88 which I left in the slab as it was going into the bank and the box had space left. I also have an eclectic mix of a dozen formerly slabbed coins from AU78 to UNC 90. Or as we must now say UNC78 - UNC90. It's always good to upgrade.

[TomGoodheart 379]

We need a 'cynical squint' smiley, I think.

Or maybe that's just me ...

[Rob 3,106]

We need a 'cynical squint' smiley, I think.

Or maybe that's just me ...

Not at all. A GCS redefinition as proposed is by far the cheapest way to get an upgrade to the collection - it would have cost me 100s to upgrade my (sorry, EF78 and not AU78) P1133A penny (ref. 000057-PE.G3.1797.03) by the traditional route of acquiring a coin in a better grade/condition. And it has the further added bonus of upgrading from the good EF assigned by Spink in the Adams sale (lot 36). A lot can happen in 10 years.

Edited March 31, 2013 by Rob

[Bill Pugsley 0]

Just out of interest I decided to register as you can't look at much information on the CGS website unless you do.

'League Tables'? 'Hall of Fame'? I'm sorry. Is this a professional service for numismatists or a video game?

I don't get it.

If you read through what is now a copious thread of information you will find that CGS encapsulated coin collectors can register the CGS coins they own to their own 'online' collection and see how they rate in comparison to other collectors of CGS encapsulated coins. Apart from giving them insurance benefits, a virtual gallery of the coins they own (pictures of both sides of the coin) they can also see how their collection of a specific series or denomination compares to that of other collectors. For example 120384 leads in many categories (but not all) and has 20CC close on its heels. That is what the League Tables are about. The Hall of Fame deals with the best known collection of a specific group of coins (whether it be a monarch or a denomination) at a point in time and uses an aggregate of the CGS value to determine whether a specific collection 'is finest known' to the CGS service. For example, the pennies of Dr. A. Findlow were all re-encapsulated as being part of his collection (with on the label 'the Dr A. Findlow Collection' or similar) and have that as a permanent attribute so long as the coin remains in a CGS capsule.

Unless you actually collect CGS encapsulated coins the League Tables and Hall of Fame are likely to be of no interest. However, I have received approaches from people who have worked out which was my designation in the League Tables to ask me would I be interested in selling a specific coin or coins (typically scarce or of very high CGS grades of 90 or above). So although you may not have an interest in this aspect of the services, it can let you look at (with a bit of digging) who may have the coin or coins that you want to complete your own collection.