Coin aquisition of the week.......

[Coinery 804]

7 hours ago, azda said:

after speaking with Rob i decided to buy this Edward IV Rose Noble S1951

Not bad! Welcome back to the table, Outlaw...you watched it, yet?

Edited November 12, 2018 by Coinery

[azda 971]

9 hours ago, Coinery said:

Not bad! Welcome back to the table, Outlaw...you watched it, yet?

Eh up Stewie, not seen Outlaw, i have however got addicted to Outlander 😁

[UPINSMOKE 455]

My latest for this week, another gap filled in the 3d collection😃 the pictures are from LCGS my pictures through the slab are not the best. Its the only 3d I have that is slabbed, what's your thought on breaking it out??

My Pictures Below😞

Edited November 13, 2018 by UPINSMOKE

[Paulus 1,879]

It looks to be a very nice example, they are extremely difficult to photograph through the slab aren't they!

As far as breaking it out, it's each to their own in my view, with a number of considerations to be taken into account, not least of which is how you currently store and display the rest of your collection?

[Stuntman 264]

That Noble is an absolute belter.  Well done Azda 😊

[Sword 1,268]

4 hours ago, UPINSMOKE said:

My latest for this week, another gap filled in the 3d collection😃 the pictures are from LCGS my pictures through the slab are not the best. Its the only 3d I have that is slabbed, what's your thought on breaking it out??

I think it does depends a bit on what grade is written on the slab. If the number is not very high, like 75, then it probably won't matter much whether it remains in the slab or not. Such a grade is not going to make the coin more marketable when you eventually move it on anyway. And it is nice to keep your coins in the same type of display.

Edited November 13, 2018 by Sword

[Paulus 1,879]

23 minutes ago, Sword said:

I think it does depends a bit on what grade is written on the slab. If the number is not very high, like 75, then it probably won't matter much whether it remains in the slab or not. Such a grade is not going to make the coin more marketable when you eventually move it on anyway. 

I agree to an extent, and would be interested to know the grade? CGS 75 is supposedly aUNC, which cannot surely be regarded as not a high grade? I suspect the given grade is a little higher though?

[UPINSMOKE 455]

2 hours ago, Sword said:

I think it does depends a bit on what grade is written on the slab. If the number is not very high, like 75, then it probably won't matter much whether it remains in the slab or not. Such a grade is not going to make the coin more marketable when you eventually move it on anyway. And it is nice to keep your coins in the same type of display.

 

1 hour ago, Paulus said:

I agree to an extent, and would be interested to know the grade? CGS 75 is supposedly aUNC, which cannot surely be regarded as not a high grade? I suspect the given grade is a little higher though?

Thank you both for your comments the coin in question is graded at CGS 65 so it's not as you both thought. So perhaps its time to break it free from its plastic tomb😲I currently keep all my coins in quadrums☺️

Edited November 14, 2018 by UPINSMOKE

[Nonmortuus 795]

Courtesy of @Rob. First Young Head shilling for me

[VickySilver 691]

Love those shillings, the hair really gives ole Vick a near-classic Greek look...Nice

 

Look at PCGS site at the 1863/1 shilling.....

[Rob 2,865]

In hand the toning has a greener tinge than shown. 

[Nonmortuus 795]

1 hour ago, Rob said:

In hand the toning has a greener tinge than shown. 

It does indeed. I think I need to experiment with the back ground colour I am using to get the colours to look more like they do in hand. If I order some different colour neoprene I will upload some pictures of a coin on different back grounds for comparison.

[Paulus 1,879]

Picked up this at DNW today (auction pics) for what I thought was a very reasonable price - I assume the French Arms at Date was an error/mistake, does anyone know any different?

[Rob 2,865]

I can't think of any logical reason other than a mistake. The same goes for the various transposed shield varieties in W3. You would think it would be obvious at the time that a mistake was being made, so maybe the reason for the positional errors is related to the order in which the various components were entered on the die? I presume we will never know. None of the 74 items listed by Hocking for W3 tell you anything about the transposed shields, nor is there anything on the French arms at date shilling.

Clearly the four shields were entered separately, otherwise the order wouldn't be wrong in several combinations. The existence of the C/SS in the last quarter variety is also likely to be a mistake and suggests that the letters in the angles were added late on. I think it likely the legend was entered penultimately to the angle fillers if used, as it would be easier to fill the gaps between the crowns, than to enter the legend and hope the gap left to accommodate the crowns is sufficient. The Garter star is the favourite to be entered first as it means you can align the shield points with the arms of the cross.

[Paulus 1,879]

16 hours ago, Rob said:

I can't think of any logical reason other than a mistake. The same goes for the various transposed shield varieties in W3. You would think it would be obvious at the time that a mistake was being made, so maybe the reason for the positional errors is related to the order in which the various components were entered on the die? I presume we will never know. None of the 74 items listed by Hocking for W3 tell you anything about the transposed shields, nor is there anything on the French arms at date shilling.

Clearly the four shields were entered separately, otherwise the order wouldn't be wrong in several combinations. The existence of the C/SS in the last quarter variety is also likely to be a mistake and suggests that the letters in the angles were added late on. I think it likely the legend was entered penultimately to the angle fillers if used, as it would be easier to fill the gaps between the crowns, than to enter the legend and hope the gap left to accommodate the crowns is sufficient. The Garter star is the favourite to be entered first as it means you can align the shield points with the arms of the cross.

Thanks Rob, makes perfect sense

[Paulus 1,879]

Newbie 

[azda 971]

Finally arrived, doesn't look like a 1967 penny Rob 😉

Edited November 17, 2018 by azda

[Sword 1,268]

Arrived this morning. 

 

 

[Paulus 1,879]

Superb strike

[VickySilver 691]

I second that! A wonderful coin. 

[Peckris 2 1,911]

 Yes indeed. Though it has strange matt finish...

[jelida 1,115]

15 hours ago, azda said:

Finally arrived, doesn't look like a 1967 penny Rob 😉

That is an absolute stunner, Dave!  I haven’t seen a more beautiful coin outside Victorian bronze pennies!  For that you could have my wife and daughter!  But if you wanted my granddaughter you’d have to throw in a little Angel!

(hope that’s not too subtle 😉)

Jerry

[Coinery 804]

‘Tis a gorgeous coin, Dave, no doubt about it! Why the high-end, big value, strategy? It’s a fantasy strategy of mine too to collect top-end...I’m failing mostly in that I have to keep selling my collection when it hits the £10k point 😩

My entire collection now has a total value under £50, an 1897 penny and  G6 halfcrown.

[azda 971]

 

10 hours ago, jelida said:

That is an absolute stunner, Dave!  I haven’t seen a more beautiful coin outside Victorian bronze pennies!  For that you could have my wife and daughter!  But if you wanted my granddaughter you’d have to throw in a little Angel!

(hope that’s not too subtle 😉)

Jerry

Lol, thanks Jerry, but i have enough with 2 daughters and a Turkish Frau 🙂

1 hour ago, Coinery said:

‘Tis a gorgeous coin, Dave, no doubt about it! Why the high-end, big value, strategy? It’s a fantasy strategy of mine too to collect top-end...I’m failing mostly in that I have to keep selling my collection when it hits the £10k point 😩

My entire collection now has a total value under £50, an 1897 penny and  G6 halfcrown.

Stewie, i had a few euros on the side and had been eyeing this one for a good 6 months and think i got it cheap for the grade, i have a few other coins on the wish list that would hold their value, so i guess it's about preserving the wealth outside of a bank as they can't be trusted IMO. Several things attracted me to it, strike, it wasn't ragged around the rim, fairly centred, flan wasn't wavy, so it had a lot going for it.....

 

Edited November 18, 2018 by azda

[Coinery 804]

4 minutes ago, azda said:

 

Lol, thanks Jerry, but i have enough with 2 daughters and a Turkish Frau 🙂

Stewie, i had a few euros on the side and had been eyeing this one for a good 6 months and think i got it cheap for the grade, i have a few other coins on the wish list that would hold their value, so i guess it's about preserving the wealth outside of a bank as they can't be trusted IMO.

 

Sounds like a plan, Stan  👍