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Not a coin for me, but the point has been made before that on such a coin, that is IMO probably the "technical" grade - there is much lustre (original minted surface) showing on both obverse and reverse. The obverse is softly struck with some, but not a lot, wear. As I understand it, the grade then is based on the amount of wear and evidence or residual minted surfaces. So not a problem with the technical 50 grade in my book, but a problem aesthetically with the lack of detail - also for a coin of this date I question the slabbing. Price? Mehhhh....

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11 hours ago, VickySilver said:

Not a coin for me, but the point has been made before that on such a coin, that is IMO probably the "technical" grade - there is much lustre (original minted surface) showing on both obverse and reverse. The obverse is softly struck with some, but not a lot, wear. As I understand it, the grade then is based on the amount of wear and evidence or residual minted surfaces. So not a problem with the technical 50 grade in my book, but a problem aesthetically with the lack of detail - also for a coin of this date I question the slabbing. Price? Mehhhh....

IMO still looks like wear to me especially the obverse. The highest points are all worn with the only detail on the lower parts of the hair where contact wear is minimized. In my experience lightly struck coins of this era are for the most part are patchy. For example a George V first type florin. On the obverse the King's ear, and the hair just above are the most likely affected with the lions on the shield on the reverse corresponding to the same area similarly affected with the rest of the coin remaining fairly sharp   As for technical grade I think PCGS etc. should in their opinion note that the coin is a lightly struck example.

I have and old set of encyclopedias called The Children's Encyclopedia by Arthur Mee that shows the operation of the Royal Mint in the 1930s. One thing that struck me, pardon the pun was the visual inspection the freshly minted coins shown as part of the process. You would hope that most of the really badly minted coins would have been culled at this stage of production.

 

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On 6/2/2021 at 7:16 PM, secret santa said:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/114834798543?hash=item1abcaff7cf:g:dMAAAOSwNhJgklqM

£600 for a worthless 1900 penny, and that's not the worst bit - economy delivery is a mere £800 !!!!!

What planet do these cretins inhabit ?

Northern ireland apparently

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On 6/10/2021 at 8:20 PM, Diaconis said:

 

https://coinsweekly.com/ccg-hires-new-senior-grading-finalizer-and-no-end/

I hope hes not in to brandy and champagne like his namesake. Mind you judging by some of the recent grading anomalies some graders might be.

Keith moon a top coin grader ? I thought hes having a party with freddie mercury and john bonham .

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On 6/13/2021 at 10:40 AM, copper123 said:

Keith moon a top coin grader ? I thought hes having a party with freddie mercury and john bonham .

I always thought keith was into bourbon big time in geezer butler's book hes always on about it , all  those long american tours i surpose

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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/265193917882

It was either this or a dodgy teddy bear from this seller. Personally I would need a photo of Beonna holding this coin, signed by Beonna himself, before I would consider it for more than £3.50

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50 minutes ago, JJs said:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/265193917882

It was either this or a dodgy teddy bear from this seller. Personally I would need a photo of Beonna holding this coin, signed by Beonna himself, before I would consider it for more than £3.50

From the same seller: Plenty of lustre, good extremely fine.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/265200000574?hash=item3dbf26de3e:g:TYsAAOSwt6FgzIDD

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5 hours ago, Paddy said:

He can't even get the date right!

He must have copied and pasted some of this. Using otherwise good extremely fine has all the attributes of a dealer description. 

Just about everything is wrong. Title - 1806 instead of 1807. 'No berries on branch', which I suggest is mainly due to the coin being corroded to b*****y. Only 1806 has no berries. Green toned, plenty of lustre - bizarre. 'Weakly struck in legend' - actually, after allowing for its general condition such as the wear to the bust, it's about as good as you will get in terms of legend as this series is notorious for filled letters. Can't comment on clashed dies given the condition. 'Ring of verdigris on the exergue' - presumably that's the exergue on the reverse at 3 o'clock?

I reckon he's copied a description of an 1806 from somewhere and just changed the date

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42 minutes ago, Rob said:

He must have copied and pasted some of this. Using otherwise good extremely fine has all the attributes of a dealer description. 

He has indeed. Copied from Baldwin's fixed price list.

https://issuu.com/baldwinscoins/docs/baldwin_s_fpl_2014_w_-_for_issuu.co

Page 123.

 

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