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[davidrj 194]

I'd like to see a better picture to be totally convinced. The I of IND worries me, it needs to be to tooth and to me it was too inconclusive to make a bid. Anyway I've got a slightly better one so wouldn't have gone to £15 just to flip it.

I've pulled three off Ebay (2 are now with fellow forum members)

Still not convinced there is only one die involved.

So thought it worth a closer look

Does the non-Gouby hollow neck exist?

............................................................................ and what of the alleged hollow neck 1912??

[scott 129]

the I of IND was one a looked at myself, it looks to be TO tooth, and i look again and still convinced it does, the I of BRITT is also to tooth, plus if you compare a normal 1911 with this one, the lettering is further away from the teeth also.

[azda 978]

Another offering from our Dundee fruitcake friend on eBay 370828080624

[Rob 3,095]

Another offering from our Dundee fruitcake friend on eBay 370828080624

Jesus. I don't know where he gets it from.

My correspondence with him on the question of the 1806 proof halfpenny (not) has terminated. He has beaten me into submission. I didn't think it was possible for someone to take such a pig-headed view about a topic when they know so little about it. Apparently you can't rely on crap 50 year old research by the likes of Peck when the more up to date Spink has managed to reduce the number of 1806 bronzed proofs from double figures to 1 single type. I append the latest drivel: -

On my 54 years of dealing with coins, i ever found a Dealer and/or Member of any Club like you! Summarise; Your uncertainty to accept a real explanation, you create a diversion, and opted for any other subjects, like the Chinese "not to loose their face".No luck!. I end very quick! Read/Buy the "Coins of England & The United Kingdom" from Spink '2012" an open on page 418. Capiche!!! Regards.

If you go to Appendix 1 in your 2012 copy of Spink, the book I referred to by C W Peck is listed half way down page 616. All those references are specialist publications which go into their respective topics in depth. Spink's Coins of England is and always has been a general catalogue simply because there is not enough space for many varieties, so all they do is list the cheapest variety. That is why there is only a price given for each of the various metals. Following 10 years of research in the 1950s, Peck wrote at great lengths about George III's coinage (175 pages), listing just under 500 varieties (P934 - P1406) from the Soho Mint including all the pennies, halfpennies and farthings that he knew of. That is why you should get the book as you would be better informed. Any collector of George III copper cannot be without a copy as it remains the most authoritative reference for the series despite being last published in 1970 and forms the basis of all the copper, tin and bronze types listed in Coins of England.

As for your comment about losing face, I don't have any concerns on this front and there is no 'uncertainty' about accepting a real explanation from me. All I'm trying to do is stop somebody wasting their hard earned money on a wrongly described item by trying to get you to see that what you have said is wrong. If you were to take the time to read more widely than your current knowledge, maybe you would realise that I have a point. Not sure what the diversion is that you refer to.

Tks for the info of Peck quoted on Appendix I (Spink 2012). Regarding all prior correspondence, suggest to dot the i's and cross the t's. Regards.

Hi. I see you still have it listed as a proof, which it isn't. I also suggested you get a copy of Peck to save you digging a hole for yourself. I stand by this. Please do something about the listing. Thanks.

I fear to disagree with your comments, to bring a publication/study of 1950's as the basis for current values and grades. Also, my un-acceptance regarding your comments about Spink's Catalogue. Regarding their page 418, surface as 4th Issue and the registration of the coin in question through 6 entries, which are clear enough to bring to-day (2012), comparisons if suitable, but leave anything which had been exposed on Museums displays which were overturned by the major I quote " Last or new coinage, 1816-20"… The year 1816 is a landmark in the history of our coinage" unquote. In fact, during the last 4 years of George III reign, the mintage was resumed to Silver/Gold. Also, the mint resume of copper (farthings 1821) and pennies/halfpennies (1825) on the reign of George IV (1820-30). Regards

Unfortunately, as the quality of language and logic used went downhill again, rather than buy a Dundonian-English dictionary or employ the services of 'Deep Thought' I've decided to leave him to it. I really believed I was getting somewhere when I explained the reference to Peck. Sadly I'm just a deluded and stupid twat.

Edited June 13, 2013 by Rob

[Peter 615]

42 the same as his IQ and the size of pre Mrs Peters knockers.I do miss the challenge but I prefer a good book now

[Rob 3,095]

42 the same as his IQ and the size of pre Mrs Peters knockers.I do miss the challenge but I prefer a good book now

I do think you should make a contribution to 'Readers' Wives'

[bagerap 706]

azda

Another offering from our Dundee fruitcake friend on eBay 370828080624

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370828080624

£449.99

For a 1951 Crown, described as:

Crown George VI 1951 Festival of Britain Proof (Mint)

"Exceptional copper-nickel coin ( 28.2 Grs. - 24.0 m/m ) struck single. Coin Commemorative of Festival of Britain at 1851. Rim legend "Industria FloretCivitas MCMLI * MDCCCLI CIVIUM" The general coinage of King George VI had a serious problem after the end of 2nd World War (1939-1945), in particular the London surroundings bombarded by the German Air Forces, and the reconstruction of these areas. Also the enormous lost of british people. Previous wars resulted on loss of british people on the armed forces, but this war, brought the tragic situation to all people were involved. Years were to be considered to bring peace to all hearts.

"

He must have testicles the size of a small planet!!! And made of solid brass.

[Peter 615]

Now that would be a members only thread.Mrs Peter won't be able to acess it. I was accused of straying before I met Mrs Peter but it was the sister of the aforementioned ....my good friend had 4 sisters 3 down

[Rob 3,095]

azda

Another offering from our Dundee fruitcake friend on eBay 370828080624

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370828080624

£449.99

For a 1951 Crown, described as:

Crown George VI 1951 Festival of Britain Proof (Mint)

"Exceptional copper-nickel coin ( 28.2 Grs. - 24.0 m/m ) struck single. Coin Commemorative of Festival of Britain at 1851. Rim legend "Industria FloretCivitas MCMLI * MDCCCLI CIVIUM" The general coinage of King George VI had a serious problem after the end of 2nd World War (1939-1945), in particular the London surroundings bombarded by the German Air Forces, and the reconstruction of these areas. Also the enormous lost of british people. Previous wars resulted on loss of british people on the armed forces, but this war, brought the tragic situation to all people were involved. Years were to be considered to bring peace to all hearts.

"

He must have testicles the size of a small planet!!! And made of solid brass.

I think I have identified an area where government savings could be made - senility benefits. Cut these and it might reduce the affordability of ebay listings such as this.

He might be a she. The name given on the contact details is Alfreda, whereas the email address is Alfredo. Whatever, idiocy is not gender specific.

Edited June 13, 2013 by Rob

[azda 978]

azda

Another offering from our Dundee fruitcake friend on eBay 370828080624

http://cgi.ebay.co.u...em=370828080624

£449.99

For a 1951 Crown, described as:

Crown George VI 1951 Festival of Britain Proof (Mint)

"Exceptional copper-nickel coin ( 28.2 Grs. - 24.0 m/m ) struck single. Coin Commemorative of Festival of Britain at 1851. Rim legend "Industria FloretCivitas MCMLI * MDCCCLI CIVIUM" The general coinage of King George VI had a serious problem after the end of 2nd World War (1939-1945), in particular the London surroundings bombarded by the German Air Forces, and the reconstruction of these areas. Also the enormous lost of british people. Previous wars resulted on loss of british people on the armed forces, but this war, brought the tragic situation to all people were involved. Years were to be considered to bring peace to all hearts.

"

He must have testicles the size of a small planet!!! And made of solid brass.

Even his ebay blurb does'nt make any English sense. I genuinely think this guy has lost the plot somewhere. I'm flying over to Scotland in November and may have to look up his addresss, knock on his door and slap some f*****g sense into him

[Nick 326]

Another offering from our Dundee fruitcake friend on eBay 370828080624

"Care in the community" has a lot to answer for.

[MRD 6]

Another offering from our Dundee fruitcake friend on eBay 370828080624

"Care in the community" has a lot to answer for.

Im new here so thanks for introducing me to this bloke got to love this one, ebay No 370831082109. Mint lustre specially created with a piece of Scotchbrite!!! whilst being held with a pair of pliers!

Edited June 13, 2013 by MRD

[davidrj 194]

Another offering from our Dundee fruitcake friend on eBay 370828080624

"Care in the community" has a lot to answer for.

Im new here so thanks for introducing me to this bloke got to love this one, ebay No 370831082109. Mint lustre specially created with a piece of Scotchbrite!!! whilst being held with a pair of pliers!

But folk are buying this rubbish for silly prices!

see this 1870BB 5Fr piece £205 is a reasonable price for EF+ but this coin struggles to make Fine (€22 in TB25) the ribbon is just visible on the neck

The minimum criteria to make VF (TTB45) a €30 coin, requires the point of the moustache to be clearly visible

But then I'm just using the grading standards from Le Franc

[Gary D 76]

Another offering from our Dundee fruitcake friend on eBay 370828080624

"Care in the community" has a lot to answer for.

Im new here so thanks for introducing me to this bloke got to love this one, ebay No 370831082109. Mint lustre specially created with a piece of Scotchbrite!!! whilst being held with a pair of pliers!

But folk are buying this rubbish for silly prices!

see this 1870BB 5Fr piece £205 is a reasonable price for EF+ but this coin struggles to make Fine (€22 in TB25) the ribbon is just visible on the neck

The minimum criteria to make VF (TTB45) a €30 coin, requires the point of the moustache to be clearly visible

But then I'm just using the grading standards from Le Franc

Was this a BIN as I can't see any bids on it. I wonder if the 8 page views is accurate.

[scott 129]

$118 for a better grade one in the USA

seems too high for me that price.

[davidrj 194]

Another offering from our Dundee fruitcake friend on eBay 370828080624

"Care in the community" has a lot to answer for.

Im new here so thanks for introducing me to this bloke got to love this one, ebay No 370831082109. Mint lustre specially created with a piece of Scotchbrite!!! whilst being held with a pair of pliers!

But folk are buying this rubbish for silly prices!

see this 1870BB 5Fr piece £205 is a reasonable price for EF+ but this coin struggles to make Fine (€22 in TB25) the ribbon is just visible on the neck

The minimum criteria to make VF (TTB45) a €30 coin, requires the point of the moustache to be clearly visible

But then I'm just using the grading standards from Le Franc

Was this a BIN as I can't see any bids on it. I wonder if the 8 page views is accurate.

BIN with positive feedback

[circusbear 0]

FOUND THIS

COPPER PATTERN DOLLAR APPARENTLY !!!

LINK

Edited June 14, 2013 by circusbear

[Rob 3,095]

Another offering from our Dundee fruitcake friend on eBay 370828080624

"Care in the community" has a lot to answer for.

Im new here so thanks for introducing me to this bloke got to love this one, ebay No 370831082109. Mint lustre specially created with a piece of Scotchbrite!!! whilst being held with a pair of pliers!

But folk are buying this rubbish for silly prices!

see this 1870BB 5Fr piece £205 is a reasonable price for EF+ but this coin struggles to make Fine (€22 in TB25) the ribbon is just visible on the neck

The minimum criteria to make VF (TTB45) a €30 coin, requires the point of the moustache to be clearly visible

But then I'm just using the grading standards from Le Franc

Was this a BIN as I can't see any bids on it. I wonder if the 8 page views is accurate.

BIN with positive feedback

I wonder if 'very considerate seller' means the coin was returned? Certainly should have been, but there again shouldn't have been bought in the first place.

[Nick 326]

Another offering from our Dundee fruitcake friend on eBay 370828080624

"Care in the community" has a lot to answer for.

Im new here so thanks for introducing me to this bloke got to love this one, ebay No 370831082109. Mint lustre specially created with a piece of Scotchbrite!!! whilst being held with a pair of pliers!

But folk are buying this rubbish for silly prices!

see this 1870BB 5Fr piece £205 is a reasonable price for EF+ but this coin struggles to make Fine (€22 in TB25) the ribbon is just visible on the neck

The minimum criteria to make VF (TTB45) a €30 coin, requires the point of the moustache to be clearly visible

But then I'm just using the grading standards from Le Franc

Was this a BIN as I can't see any bids on it. I wonder if the 8 page views is accurate.

BIN with positive feedback

I wonder if 'very considerate seller' means the coin was returned? Certainly should have been, but there again shouldn't have been bought in the first place.

If you look at the feedback that he left for the buyer ("...Grateful for acceptance delay caused by wrong coin"), it shows that he initially sent the buyer the wrong coin. So, not only does he know nothing about coins, he's incompetent too.

[Rob 3,095]

Maybe even yestodtom is having difficulty reconciling the coin in hand with the description.

[Gary D 76]

Another offering from our Dundee fruitcake friend on eBay 370828080624

"Care in the community" has a lot to answer for.

Im new here so thanks for introducing me to this bloke got to love this one, ebay No 370831082109. Mint lustre specially created with a piece of Scotchbrite!!! whilst being held with a pair of pliers!

But folk are buying this rubbish for silly prices!

see this 1870BB 5Fr piece £205 is a reasonable price for EF+ but this coin struggles to make Fine (€22 in TB25) the ribbon is just visible on the neck

The minimum criteria to make VF (TTB45) a €30 coin, requires the point of the moustache to be clearly visible

But then I'm just using the grading standards from Le Franc

Was this a BIN as I can't see any bids on it. I wonder if the 8 page views is accurate.

BIN with positive feedback

I wonder if 'very considerate seller' means the coin was returned? Certainly should have been, but there again shouldn't have been bought in the first place.

If you look at the feedback that he left for the buyer ("...Grateful for acceptance delay caused by wrong coin"), it shows that he initially sent the buyer the wrong coin. So, not only does he know nothing about coins, he's incompetent too.

Let me think about this, the buyer wins the coin midday on the 26th, gets the wrong coin, returns it, receives the correct coin and leaves feed back all within 4 days.

[Rob 3,095]

I think the buyer is genuine as all the purchases are either coins (mostly French) or music cds. It can be done in 4 days, because everything would go special delivery at that price, so despatched 26th, returned 27th, new coin sent 28th and feedback would be possible by the 29th.

[azda 978]

I'm told it does'nt really matter about a Little more mis-handling, cos it's rare. Check the Pictures

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221240819361?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_from%3DR40%26_nkw%3D221240819361%26_rdc%3D1

[VickySilver 804]

Don't think that one will quite reach the Proof Cameo 67 designation...

[Accumulator 52]

I'm told it does'nt really matter about a Little more mis-handling, cos it's rare. Check the Pictures

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221240819361?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_from%3DR40%26_nkw%3D221240819361%26_rdc%3D1

He/she seems like an honest seller. Not many would include a close up photo of any damage, so credit where credit is due in my book. At least any prospective buyer can make an informed decision!