Henry III Long & Short Cross, 1 Penny's

[Citizen H 121]

Henry III Long & Short Cross.....

Long Cross, Type 3b, mint 3, 6 point star, Nicole....of London? 1249 ( I can make out the Nic ole.. but the rest?) its been pierced,, common practice to thread on cord to prevent losing....  

Short Cross, Type 7b1,Terri on LVNDE , Terri of London....1216

I'm quite please with the reading but still a bit sketchy about Classes.....  

 

[Coinery 1,295]

Yes, the Short Cross is Henry III class 7 and the moneyer is indeed TERRI of London.

The long cross is class 3 and Canterbury (O\|  CANT) 

 

[Citizen H 121]

44 minutes ago, Coinery said:

Yes, the Short Cross is Henry III class 7 and the moneyer is indeed TERRI of London.

The long cross is class 3 and Canterbury (O\|  CANT) 

 

The Long cross had me thinking London due to the Star... Mintmark 3: thicker 6-pointed star, struck at London and provincial mints, c.1249

was canterbury a provincial mint, hence the Star?

Many Thanks "H"

[Coys55 55]

5 hours ago, Citizen H said:

The Long cross had me thinking London due to the Star... Mintmark 3: thicker 6-pointed star, struck at London and provincial mints, c.1249

was canterbury a provincial mint, hence the Star?

Many Thanks "H"

The star is common across several classes and is an initial mark rather than a mint mark which denotes the start point of the obverse legend. 

The reverse legend is clearly

NIC | OLE | ONC | ANT

So it’s Nicole on Cant  

The use of ligated (joined together) letters (ON and AN in this case) on the voided long cross series can be confusing to the beginner. 

 

[Citizen H 121]

1 hour ago, Coys55 said:

The star is common across several classes and is an initial mark rather than a mint mark which denotes the start point of the obverse legend. 

The reverse legend is clearly

NIC | OLE | ONC | ANT

So it’s Nicole on Cant  

The use of ligated (joined together) letters (ON and AN in this case) on the voided long cross series can be confusing to the beginner. 

 

Ahhhhhh!.... I did pick up on the NIC / OLE  I was trying for the on LVNDE or something like CIVI / TAZ.  Stuart helped me out with this 👍Its a learning curve and beginning to pick up on such as hENRY III,  ah and The Coins Of England book is on its way ........, many thanks all for the help its greatly appreciated,  "H"