Geoffrey Cope collection

[SilverAge3 57]

On 5/27/2024 at 2:14 PM, secret santa said:

Can you supply the link please ?

They seem to not have it hosted online any longer, however the catalog can be obtained here

https://media.biddr.com/media/pdf/auction_catalogues/4516.pdf

It's lot 1432, closer to the end. Attributed by NGC as P-1342, which iirc is standard circ 1806. I peg it as a KP 31 pairing, based upon imperfect 1 and 0 in date. Base of 1 missing, top of 0 is open.
KP 31 gives us the following possibilities:
P-1325 is gilt
P-1326 is bronzed
P-1327 is copper
.... so one of these three. Not gilt, I think just standard copper, but maybe it's bronzed, I certainly am not too sure there.

 

I tried to crop pic for the site, but results are not very clear. Best to download the catalog.

NGC's cert images aren't currently working, but the link to that coin is here, hoping images are back up soon:

https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/2153879-035/65/

 

Edited June 17 by SilverAge3

[oldcopper 283]

It's standard copper from the look of it. I didn't manage to look at it when I was there, but I wonder why CNG called it "blazing", usually an adjective for full proof red lustre, whereas NGC graded it as a BN! But I'd have thought it could reach an RB from the photo, though colour can be deceptive in photographs of course.

Edited June 17 by oldcopper

[Raven Coins 5]

The open top on the 0 in date is normally on the Proof issue

 

[Rob 3,106]

I had it down as a P1342, so clearly nothing that screamed proof in hand.

[SilverAge3 57]

8 hours ago, Raven Coins said:

The open top on the 0 in date is normally on the Proof issue

 

Yeah, exactly my thought.

NGC's pictures are working again, much easier to see details from my NGC link above. Clearly the date has incomplete 1 & 0 from the pics on there. NGC called it a proof, as well, just seems the incorrect P-number.

Edited June 17 by SilverAge3

[secret santa 2,136]

P1327 I assume ?

[oldcopper 283]

12 hours ago, secret santa said:

P1327 I assume ?

Yes, if that's the copper one.

[PWA 1967 2,036]

On 5/8/2024 at 7:33 PM, Kipster said:

13000CHF for an 1827 MS65BN graded penny...

🤯

I notice the 1827 Penny sold straight away in Baldwin fixed price list for £22,000.

[SilverAge3 57]

28 minutes ago, PWA 1967 said:

I notice the 1827 Penny sold straight away in Baldwin fixed price list for £22,000.

 

Pretty outstanding piece, it is.

On 6/17/2024 at 5:45 PM, secret santa said:

P1327 I assume ?

My thought on it, yes.

Edited August 6 by SilverAge3

[VickySilver 806]

Wow! Astounding price on the 1827. Does this mean some of the non-gold 19th century issues (other than that - IMHO - infernal 1847 Gothic) are on the move? 

[secret santa 2,136]

[oldcopper 283]

I liked Neil's statement in the intro to the fixed price list: (from memory it was) "the undoubted star of the copper section is the 1827 penny".

The "copper section" consisted of two coins - the 1827 penny and a £150 NEF cartwheel penny. So I can't argue with that assertion!