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Unwilling Numismatist

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Changechecker haven't told Joe Public about the second rarest 50p hiding in plain site, so I've been trying to stockpile them.

2009 Kew gardens - 210,000

2017 Royal Shield - 1,800,000

2017 Sir Isaac Newton - 1,801,500

{the rest}

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4 hours ago, Unwilling Numismatist said:

Changechecker haven't told Joe Public about the second rarest 50p hiding in plain site, so I've been trying to stockpile them.

2009 Kew gardens - 210,000

2017 Royal Shield - 1,800,000

2017 Sir Isaac Newton - 1,801,500

{the rest}

Are the 2018 Rabbit ,Bunny & Mouse not less than 1,800,000 Kev ?

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According to that learned and august journal The Sun, the figures for 2018  are:

50p Peter Rabbit (Beatrix Potter): 1.4million
50p Flopsy Bunny (Beatrix Potter): 1.4million
50p Mrs Tittlemouse (Beatrix Potter): 1.7million
50p Tailor of Gloucester (Beatrix Potter): 3.9million
50p Paddington at the Station: 5million
50p Paddington at the Palace: 5.9million
50p Representation of the People: 9million

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2 hours ago, PWA 1967 said:

Are the 2018 Rabbit ,Bunny & Mouse not less than 1,800,000 Kev ?

Some of the olympics are less than 1,800,000 Kev.

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1 hour ago, Unwilling Numismatist said:

No you didn't win :) 

The changechecker site explicitly states that the Olympic 50p are omitted from the chart. 

Mintage figures according to ITN news:

2009 Kew Gardens: 210,000
2011 Olympic wrestling: 1,129,500
2011 Olympic football: 1,161,500
2011 Olympic judo: 1,161,500
2011 Olympic triathlon: 1,163,500
2018 Peter Rabbit: 1,400,000
2018 Flopsy Bunny: 1,400,000
2011 Olympic tennis: 1,454,000
2011 Olympic goalball: 1,615,500
2011 Olympic shooting: 1,656,500

 

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1 hour ago, Sword said:

No you didn't win :)

The changechecker site explicitly states that the Olympic 50p are omitted from the chart. 

Mintage figures according to ITN news:

2009 Kew Gardens: 210,000
2011 Olympic wrestling: 1,129,500
2011 Olympic football: 1,161,500
2011 Olympic judo: 1,161,500
2011 Olympic triathlon: 1,163,500
2018 Peter Rabbit: 1,400,000
2018 Flopsy Bunny: 1,400,000
2011 Olympic tennis: 1,454,000
2011 Olympic goalball: 1,615,500
2011 Olympic shooting: 1,656,500

 

I said nothing about olympic 50p's blame @PWA 1967 and @bagerap for that.. I just said that the 2017 Shield was missing, until today.

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I thought you implied in the OP that the 2017 Royal Shield is the second rarest 50p? But quite a few others have lower mintages.

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54 minutes ago, Unwilling Numismatist said:

I said nothing about olympic 50p's blame @PWA 1967 and @bagerap for that.. I just said that the 2017 Shield was missing, until today.

I get the blame for everything at home dont start on here aswell :D

Might be a daft question but if they list mintage figures of coins from circulation why do they leave the olympics off please ?

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1 minute ago, Sword said:

I thought you implied in the OP that the 2017 Royal Shield is the second rarest 50p? But quite a few others have lower mintages.

Glad you typed that Sword because that is what i thought 😮

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5 minutes ago, Sword said:

I thought you implied in the OP that the 2017 Royal Shield is the second rarest 50p? But quite a few others have lower mintages.

No, I was implying that change-checkers mintage figures were incomplete, and needed an update because it was missing from what they have been showing. Unfortunately my post was untimely in the fact that the mintage figures were released yesterday and just about everybody knows the new ones today.(yesterday now)

 

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17 minutes ago, PWA 1967 said:

 

Might be a daft question but if they list mintage figures of coins from circulation why do they leave the olympics off please ?

It's just there are 29 olympic 50p coins. They will just dominate the table if all are included. The abridged table shows a wider range of dates and types. 

Some previous tables from changechecker have included them.

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What are the figures for BU coins issued, do we know? I understand these are just for-circulation numbers?

If they issued 1.4 million for circulation they must have done an absolute shitload on top of that in BU packs and change-checker cards. 50k, 100k, ... ?

 

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Some commemorative figures are produced here but I think they're still working on getting more completed. It's taking a while.

 

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I think that the reason the 2017 Shield will be a sleeper in numismatic circles is that Joe Public is only looking for short term gain commemoratives. Shield coins have no interest to commemorative collectors. BUNC 2017 shields will hopefuly do well enough in the next decade to make storing them worthwhile. 

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I'm pretty sure anyone who buys these in quantity and holds them rather than flipping is going to be burnt pretty badly at some point. The mintage figures are just too high for collector demand alone to be causing the prices we see. 

A lot of the proof sets have mintages of 5,000 or below, but they haven't seen the crazy demand and price increases the 50 pences have - which to me suggests that the actual number of serious decimal collectors is pretty low, as you'd only need a relatively small number of people to make these expensive. 

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