Halfpenny ID check

[Zo Arms 327]

3 hours ago, Raven Coins said:

Reverse E. Similar die fill.

Edited March 27, 2024 by Zo Arms
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[Bernie 214]

3 hours ago, Raven Coins said:

Freeman 274, obverse 5 Reverse E

[Martinminerva 365]

8 hours ago, Raven Coins said:

Die fill to the E of Penny, yes, but different obv and rev combo (as Bernie says, this is a 5+E) to the E (or F) over B in BRIT pairs (4+G and 6+G respectively), and this one does not have that error. Suspect die fill (on any letter) is pretty common... What was being wondered is if there are more of the E over B 4+G and do they have the die fill?

 

 

 

[Zo Arms 327]

52 minutes ago, Martinminerva said:

Die fill to the E of Penny, yes, but different obv and rev combo (as Bernie says, this is a 5+E) to the E (or F) over B in BRIT pairs (4+G and 6+G respectively), and this one does not have that error. Suspect die fill (on any letter) is pretty common... What was being wondered is if there are more of the E over B 4+G and do they have the die fill?

 

 

 

Exactly as Martin says. I should have been more concise in response.

Apologies.

[The Bee 237]

Hi,

Here is the obverse and reverse of 1861 Halfpenny along with the previously posted E over B. Bob kindly suggested I post it here for comparison purposes - I would have been a bit quicker  but I've been side tracked reading some of the many informative halfpenny posts. There is so much that I couldn't find the E or F over B post history (which I know I've seen before!) - best therefore to tag it on the end.

Halfpennies may be a bit less collectable than pennies - but the upside is of course (as everyone knows) that they are more affordable - or at least I've been finding them so !

I will try to identify some more from my trays and post any that I struggle with for feedback from the experts

What does puzzle me though - given the immense variety in QV Bronze pennies and Halfpennies - I would expect a similar number of varieties with Farthings - possibly even more so, maybe I'm wrong but this doesn't seem to the the case. I guess fewer were produced and possibly the dies needed fewer repairs 

Best Regards !  

  

 

[Zo Arms 327]

Thanks for bringing it over. Great to have them all in the same place.

I think that the die crack over the F of F D confirms the same obverse die as Martin's.

 

[The Bee 237]

F and E over B in Britt on 1861 Halfpenny

Out of curiosity, I was comparing in a very basic way, the normal upper limb of the F and E (which is the "bit" we can see in the F and E over BRITT.

Apologies if I've missed something but I do think they are quite different - for example the angle of the end of the upper limb \ .

I wondered if we could use this to evidence that we have an F over B and an E over B ?

Best Regards   

 

[The Bee 237]

On 3/24/2024 at 12:02 PM, mrbadexample said:

still favour the E/B based on the little pointy bit here: 

1861 Halfpenny F or E ? 

I'd like it to be an, F but the angles look to more closely match an E ?

Best Regards 

[The Bee 237]

1860 Halfpenny Reverse "REG" 1 A

Hi,

I think this is an E over E (in REG) ???

Best Regards

[Zo Arms 327]

[Zo Arms 327]

To my eyes, photo 4 says an F.........

Used the camera from 2 different phones.......

[Peckris 2 2,224]

Farthings were 1) a lower priority due to being so small that people didn't study them too closely for die failures etc, 2) being so small, there was a greater proportion of protective rim, 3) (guess..) the dies didn't wear so quick?

[The Bee 237]

11 hours ago, Zo Arms said:

To my eyes, photo 4 says an F.........

Hi Bob, 

Is there something sticking out of the curve of the B ?

Very Best Regards

[The Bee 237]

9 hours ago, Peckris 2 said:

Farthings were 1) a lower priority due to being so small that people didn't study them too closely for die failures etc, 2) being so small, there was a greater proportion of protective rim, 3) (guess..) the dies didn't wear so quick?

Many thanks Peckris 2  2) sounds a good hypothesis which would drive 3) 

[The Bee 237]

Hi

I had a read of Iain Dracott's 2021 article "New Varieties" in Coin News [many thanks Gary]

In it he mentions an 1860 Halfpenny, 1 + A,  "E" over L

I wondered, does anyone have an example of an 1860 Halfpenny,  1 + A,  "E" over L, or a photo of an example ?

Very Best Regards

[Zo Arms 327]

6 hours ago, The Bee said:

Hi

I had a read of Iain Dracott's 2021 article "New Varieties" in Coin News [many thanks Gary]

In it he mentions an 1860 Halfpenny, 1 + A,  "E" over L

I wondered, does anyone have an example of an 1860 Halfpenny,  1 + A,  "E" over L, or a photo of an example ?

Very Best Regards

Must admit, I've not looked for an E/L combo, so had a look thru mine. Not found one but there is a bit of fudgery going on here.

[The Bee 237]

12 hours ago, Zo Arms said:

Must admit, I've not looked for an E/L combo, so had a look thru mine. Not found one but there is a bit of fudgery going on here

What an amazing repair ! (some kind of partial letter punch)

Very Best Regards

[The Bee 237]

1938 Halfpenny Reverse - Post Mint Damage ?

Wondered if this was another incidence of post mint damage 

Great to get your thoughts - especially on the "E" in Penny

Very Best Regards

[Martinminerva 365]

Indeed, just damage / gouges, either deliberate or accidental, and associated metal displacement - see how the H of Half and N of Penny have also "grown" extensions to their limbs. And the gouge in the field below the H has resulted in a raised "hook" at the end of the gouge. Glaciologists would call it terminal moraine !!

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