mick1271

Book arrived today ,and the 1858 over 6 was in it .

The 6th edition was issued in 1968 .I picked one up from a UK seller on ebay for a couple of quid .Should have it in a day or two.

Pete posted about these on Facebook yesterday . Managed to pick this one up..

If it wasn't slabbed, I could possibly understand his confusion , but it tells you on the slab exactly what it is .A silver (s1p) proof penny , not a steel penny missing its cuni coating error .If was was an unclad steel penny , how could it be a proof ??

According to him, he is an expert and everyone else knows nothing lol.

There is also a guy on one of the predecimal FB sites "showing off" an 1863 proof penny along with a pic from Baldwins of one previously sold .Even after being told that it isn't a proof , and isn't the same coin from Baldwins ,he still isn't backing down lol . It is also on sale on ebay .The fact it isn't even EF , should be a bit of a giveaway . https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/285386931951?hash=item427262feef:g:nzMAAOSweS9kovuY&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4IFQACtYbIRNDZDqMfU1uhWYl%2Bbbmv%2BwcH6QR3z9mgdUb%2ByITgndV4ZKrzr87X99MCvHOg8qC2siVbRWkL4Xq9qw7TdxkwH4%2BFwxy6LlI5tFB29DJwnJ69FHRXS7pph2TUdjK33YeStF5b3wldjhk3w3%2Fej3a2FXPxLim6AAuEH06llLWtgUovgQu8enwuzjl3Se9KlpNx9K4gW3WxgAled%2FmJvqUgk%2F5rvKeiDi%2FJ0GRy5lDViSB2VVxYs56e4b6GBoMRBSqMDRb10K0W%2FmOfLJaNJg8S%2Fd5Q1%2Fu2UaBotM|tkp%3ABk9SR_iVvq6wYg

I joined the group and found the post . The owner didn't know it was a copy , but now appears to be quite content knowing that it isn't real .

I thought that too . Sold as a bog standard 1825 ,(I enlarged the pics for a closer look) so cheap and worth the gamble .

It is quite a nice clear pic , but sometimes even the best photos lie. i will put up some other pics and some microscope pics when It arrives.

While looking at ebay for 5/5 farthings I came across what looks like a 5/3 .Can't find any information on it except that it was alluded to, but not confirmed (that has probably changed as apart from a date run, I don't really bother with farthings ).Will probably be nothing once I have it in hand , but was worth a punt to find out .

There is quite a few high grade ones on ebay just now .Ranging from £17 (fair) to $150 , but most are around the £85-110 mark for EF or better .

Looks like Obv 2 . Bottom of the rose is cut off , and IT of BRITT tilted forward

With Heaton buying the machinery from Soho mint after they went out of business, who knows what else they may have purchased . ex Soho coin blanks or unused stock could have been experimented on to see if it was usable .It widens the scope of possible host coins .

I normally just go for an example which I am happy with , rather than top grade .So I have quite a few scarce /rare ones but they are not in the sort of condition that would go for decent money . I wouldn't part with anything unless I've got a decent upgrade of it either . Saying that ,the collection has gotten away from me (attempted date runs of every denomonation of milled ). I should probably sell off large parts and settle for better quality of just Pennies (incl variants) and shillings .

"Selling for less than book price" going for slightly less than a coin 3 grades higher "from my Grandfathers collection" Modern fake

I have never had that issue . It has never affected the toning or lustre of any of my copper/ bronzes .I only use it to clean off crud and surface verd, which I then treat with verdicare .I don't soak it and only use a cotton bud . I know the iridescence you are on about , It may be over vigorous cleaning .More using the cloth /bud to do the cleaning , than letting the Acetone do the work.

The top one is definitely a copy . The sovereign may be an ex mount with the silvery metal being left over solder , but as stated , they are commonly faked , so hard to tell from a pic.

I think they have done a decent job too .It might look worse in natural light though .

The 1875H is an odd looking coin . The colour isn't attractive and it has obviously been interfered with .The even colour throughout even on the high points is a give away that something has been done to it recently . I don't mind the 1934 , for a mint toned coin , it isn't obvious that it has been artificially toned .It may have been gived a wipe and toned like that afterwards (I suppose that could be argued as artificially toned ). As you say , not everyones cup of tea. I struggle to see the 1875H appealling to anyone who was looking to spend that amount on an 1875H .

The PAS form is for a different coin .Same type , but not the one being sold .

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/333770257742?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D243436%26meid%3Dfc92ead380d64b4b9f4be2239ae2020a%26pid%3D101195%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D125611612675%26itm%3D333770257742%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DSimplAMLv11WebTrimmedV3MskuAspectsV202110NoVariantSeedKnnRecallV5ItemNrtInQuery&_trksid=p2047675.c101195.m1851&amdata=cksum%3A333770257742fc92ead380d64b4b9f4be2239ae2020a|enc%3AAQAHAAABMJE7%2BNyUclXdoFXnbx3NvlJX7YMqFr8NJCcyHQud2Z04j2uZxgnHXbb2ZalpwbGsJ4D%2FcbSkMz8IpnsCPJ7ydREm8lqmL0kHB523%2FFCl%2BP6D2ad5Empx%2FgOWdLWtT3Vn5QL7KrlqGr5xbsxh2mgt6K6mq5ApRt0WhfIQtmILxWluvsMY2yrIiUFMpDFclBhEB%2Bn37O2cyybs4M4Gz4lYja%2BiW8ZmS%2FI4EdT7js1ThcP8oNjX0DKbZZW8BF6%2BK9HpkuZR1wdTrmavOn4M8G6CGCFIiExq6NxZSOP5AMicNKxI%2F%2B3iaaAmAAWWF5Z%2BkaLy008TN5K6YV5%2BevmDrIGMDYK3aWNhzvAeOmq4t0QPg9uWQ%2B678v3nwC1Rf7jSJUPuGESfiT6p4ORlKdBMVKbdaeo%3D|ampid%3APL_CLK|clp%3A2047675 couple of issues with this one lol

T over T , but not a Halfpenny . Its on an F10 Penny.

My guess would be a base for a surveyors level /theodolite .

definitely non an ME .

My F10 with a repunched T in Victoria . The Vand I are normal