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That really has been rotated quite a lot. I found one some years back on an 1861 6+G with the G in REG totally out of position , being low and to the left with the old G showing around it. Though its probably a G over G It could be over a C, but the coins to worn to be sure , and I've not seen another as yet to compare it with .

That is true dedication to getting a roll in just one film , its a shame it didn't lead to a career in football ☺️

In for a PLNNY in for a pound

It doesn't , It just depends on whether you find date width variations interesting and wish to collect them on not. Many of them are ex rare but not many collectors are interested in them. They a more common in early coins as would be expected and seem to have disappeared completely by the 1940s . On the whole there inexpensive and new undiscovered types are still turning up. Its the thrill of the chase for me ??

Is this what you mean . And yes Depeche Mode . Seriously one difference which Pete picked up on is that on the common type the 1 almost touches the tooth on the rare ones there is a gap between the 1 and the tooth

I compared it with the common type Gouby Ab and the last 1 to the gap type Gouby Aa and i cant see any noticeable difference between any of them , but as both Aa and Ac types are so rare i would think that each were minted from just one die ,which would suggest that reserve dies were kept with just the first three digits stamp on to them and that they were later needed and had the last digit i.e the 1 inserted so as to complete the number of coins required . I guess this could mean that they were very slightly different.

Obverse

1901 with the second one in the date directly over the tooth . Blakeyboys newly discovered type , now listed by Gouby as type Ac

My latest addition an F176 2+a in top grade

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I was going to have a crack at it . Its in the sold section now , so i guess an offer was excepted even though three bids had already been placed. 1875 VICTORIAN BUN HEAD PENNY | eBay

8, nearly all of them still held by the Royal Mint and not available https://rarestpennies.wordpress.com/1937-edward-viii/

Welcome to the Forum Jack . As you may guess from my name i'm not into Shillings, but im sure lots of useful information will be forthcoming from other members on here who are.

Yes I know 1967 penny , who cares they only made 600,000,000 of them. Well I came across a lot of ten mixed date pennies on a very poor out of focus picture, with only one coin that you could determine the date and that it was a missing sea example. I already had a 1966 example and have been looking for a 1967 for many years. and to my great surprise when the pennies arrived four of the five 1967s were missing sea types, so must have been stored away when new and have survived together for the past fifty four years. After having a good look at the 1967s and comparing them with the 1966 I noticed that all the 1967s not only had the missing sea but also had a much shorter plume and a missing back shoulder strap , whereas on the 1966 missing sea the strap is present and the plume runs right down to touch the shoulder, as you find on the normal 1966/67s .

Yes, I have to agree with Pete its a good book to buy for information on 20th century Bronze.

I did know that Pete I posted that on here in Feb 2016 but its that the two missing sea dates are both different one with the long plume the other with the short

I agree with you on the rarity, as in fifteen years of looking on Ebay I have only seen two , as to recognising it on worn coins , the rev. D and E can be hard to determine but the rev. E has the P in PENNY to the gap , on the D its to the tooth. But without the signature showing its not really very collectable.

Obverse

Here's my one, I never felt the need to up grade it as it shows the signature very clearly.

If I may suggest two others Richard , The F14 1860 3+E and the F77 1874 8+G .

!! Caveat Emptor !!

I would guess that the reverse E on the f14 was one of a set of trial dies that broke up almost immediately when they started to use the dies on the production line , hence virtually no coins if any survive without die cracks, possibly also the fate of the obverse 2* which all examples found up to now have serious die cracks showing .

I agree it does look different . Die 5 . Has any one found an F14 without a die crack ??

Surely if the Royal Mail paid you compensation, then as it was also them that subsequently delivered the coin, they are responsible as they should have withheld the coin and not deliver it .