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Ian .The die would a Mirror image of the face of the coin ,so a dot standing up off the coin would on the die be a hole, so to remove, it the hole would have to be filled. My guess is that tiny edge parts along the side of the die crack, broke away leaving a small hole, or in this case two holes.

I think they are the result of a tiny die crack Terry

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Mr T. Difficult to explain, so hence the diagram , Looking at normal bright uncirculated pennies of the 60s there is no sign of scratches at all , but on this one the minute scratches run down the right side of the coin , and some also run in a slightly different direction across the exergue. no scratches can be seen on the raised parts , like the lighthouse shield or waves, so it looks as though a engineer has used something like an abrasive paper just on the top left side of the die, I shall try to get a close up some time Terry Ps I am try to add the drawing , bare with me

Mr T . I was wondering about how it was caused . when you look extremely close with a magnifying glass, you can see the minute lines from the grinding of the flat surfaces running right through from the open flat area, into the bare area where the waves should [ I must get myself a close up camera] . I thought that if this was caused by grease or dirt , the complete individual wavy would disappear , and not leave just the points of what on the normal coin are much larger waves, so I would think it must be the result of the top of that part of the die being ground down lower , and so loosing definition Terry

You know Matt ,you have to keep this computer stuff simple for us oldies . I'm just getting the hang of the Babbage model Terry

Mr T . I see you've left out B+x . can't see why . X rev below Terry

Your 1904 is 11.5 tooth width with a straight 4. if you look in the forum under 1904 penny varieties 23-10-2013 I think its the second date down Terry

The 7 in the date, like the HT penny also lays over to the right , and is half a tooth narrower Terry

Sorry , but it looks to me like the 9 is the result of a die crack across the 9 into the exergue . you can see the blob of metal running down from above Terry

This penny was my mothers when she was collecting during the 1960s. She was a lawyer and had working connections with the banks , though I do not know where she obtained it ,but she must have obtained it around the time it was made . It shows no signs of any kind of coating , and even if my penny is a fake , the penny sold by London coins I assume was checked , if not £3500 ponds was a lot to pay for a dud Terry

I have an Uncirculated 1967 Proof or Speciman coin which was said to not exist . I mentioned it to MG, and he thought it might be worth perhaps £200. Then an EF-UNC was sold on L.Coins in December 14 for £3500. Proofs don't photo well , its the toned one Terry

Hi . as far as I an aware there is no difference in the legend on the two types of 1902 , but the tide height difference is easy to determine . The 1863 open 3 is not always easy to see. Terry

Hi Azda Your right about the high tide 1897 . but the sure way to tell is by the P in PENNY . The P on the Common type points to the tooth ,on the High Tide it points to the gap between the teeth Terry

Hi I'm Terry. I've been collecting mainly pre.dec. pennies for about a decade now. The collection was started by my mother in the 60s, and passed on to me . I have made quite a few discoveries, but have yet to share them . This one I think is the most important . At first glance it appears to be a Freeman 2 + d but no. What first caught my notice was the oversized colons with what appears to be a smaller button like dot in centre of all the colons, so I investigated further, and found the letters did not align with the teeth in the same way as other Freeman obv. 2 coins. Infact the V in VICTORIA and the F in F D point to the tooth. So I counted the teeth , and to my surprise was 145 , now the Freeman 2 has 143, and no other type has 145. I have only seen two others in three years of looking and they are both on London coins .

That's the kind of marks left after someone has clamped it in a vice Terry

It do's look like it is the same type in the first stage of breakdown, we'll have to keep looking for others at differing stages of deterioration Terry

P.s I would say the 1880 was the result of the Mint Re engraving the narrow date die rather than an error, though the filing of the old 8 digit must have started to come away. Curios that they re cut the die at all Terry

Hi. Matt . It's on the common Double exergue . I've Had this penny forever, and have never seen another , even like yours with the single error. Could you post the Pic. Terry

Hi. This 1940 penny has two obverse die letter faults, probably caused by part of the letters on the die breaking away. this perhaps could be the result of the Mint being less particular about the quality of the coins being produced , maybe due to the constraints of war. I'm not aware of any other penny with two such errors on one face. If you have one , I would love you to post it . Terry

Sorry I did'nt reply sooner , I've been out bowling this evening . In answer to you question Cliff , I read about it in an on line price guide a couple of years back, I cannot remember which. the Wavy and straight E,s can be found in closed 1903s, and in most years between 1897 and 1905. Pic. shows two 1900 pennies, with some degree of ware , and still seem to be clearly one or the other type , so the difference must be due to different dies, or ware to the dies Terry