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Cliff

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  1. 39 minutes ago, Paddy said:

    I am still battling with all these varieties, but as I understand it a reverse J (as opposed to Ja) on an 1875 penny would be an as yet unrecorded combination. This according to @secret santa 's website. So I would be delighted if one of them is a J! 😁

     

    Whooops - cap in hand, I've misread and misunderstood my Gouby, for which I apologize. I was going off the two different hair lengths your two 1875s 'appear' to have and jumping the gun.

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  2. In Maurice Bull's "English Silver Coinage since 1649" he  shows the number of harp strings and billets per silver currency coin year/types in the "Varieties, comments etc" column of his description tables (eg 6s - 9b).  The billet count ceased wef George 1 and was replaced by a hts count, whilst retaining the harp string count (eg 6s - 5hts) and continued through George II, after which they stop.

    Forgive my meanderings but what are hts's?

  3. I've started to have a look at halfcrown coins and realize that I'm at the bottom of a long steep learning curve if I'm going to continue.  I recently purchased a 1671 VICESIMO TERTIO which I thought was ESC 468 (old).

    The more recent ESC 6th edition now classes this as ESC 457 and describes it as "No stop after HIB (7 - 10 strings)".  My Irish Harp only has five strings, is this common or a variant?

    Your comments would be much appreciated.

    Cliff   

    1671 Rev (2).jpg

  4. Hello Ian, apologies for not responding earlier, been involved with youngest granddaughter's school sports-day, then collection and a sleepover plus dropping her back with her parents earlier this morning.  Doesn't sound much in the telling but .......

    Confirm the pics arrived in all their glory, for which I thank you very much. I think they would be great as part of an up to date Copper Penny publication if ever "someone" with the knowledge, skill, inclination and time could be persuaded to do it?!?!?!?

    Thanks again for your help, much appreciated. Cliff

     

  5. 7 hours ago, alfnail said:

    Re. my 1853 penny study, the other interesting thing which I noted was that none of the Plain Trident pieces were above a GVF grade, and only a handful around VF...….most were complete tat. My italic 5 piece which I pictured earlier was found outside my 5 year study period. There are some better grade pieces around, because a handful have been sold, for example, by London Coins in the past few years...………….. including one with the italic 5 date in June 2017 for hammer of £400:-

    http://www.londoncoins.co.uk/?page=Pastresults&auc=157&searchlot=2969&searchtype=2

     

    Hello Ian. I've been following your recent very interesting posts with interest and would like to submit my 1853 PT Penny for your consideration which I bought from Colin Cooke as Unc GLus with "small spot on Obv field" in Oct 2003 (which puts it before your 5 year study?).

    I'm happy enough to give it P1504, Bramah 16 but I'm blowed if I can give it a Gouby date type with any confidence!  Whilst seeming to fit Gouby date style C, the date width is too narrow.  His date style C (?) does have the same date width as mine BUT, although the E of DEI has been repaired in both examples, my 3 does not appear to have been altered in any way.

    I will attempt to attach pics but I usually manage to cock it up.

    Any comments would be welcome.

    1853D P1504 Bramah 16 Obv.jpg

    1853D P1504 Bramah 16 Rev.jpg

  6. For whatever reason I've only today received my April Coin News edition and would now like to congratulate (somewhat belatedly) David on his two articles re the 12 sided Pound coin.  I envy your patience and eye for detail.

     

  7. 45 minutes ago, davidrj said:

    Seems quite common for a variety of years and reverse dies, always in the same place which suggests a rare bur regular glitch in the minting machinery.

    some I've found -

    Thanks for the pics and the comment davidrj

    I have several other year examples and, whilst talking with PWA 1967 (Pete,) he tells me that every year between 1874 to 1894 have examples of this left of date LC feature.

    I've seen an article seemingly agreeing with your "glitch in the machinery" comment. It suggests the feature may be the result of rogue"hammer die machinery" being slightly out of alignment and an edge repeatedly hitting planchets in the exact same spot over the years. I'm trying to re-locate the article so that I can quote it more accurately and give the author due recognition.

    Cliff

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