Michael-Roo
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going with die wear and an E
Hi Scott. What do you mean. 'With an E'?
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Cheers Stuart.
I find this one fascinating, so I'm really pleased to get your expert input. You're right. The the condition isn't all that bad, its the punch/strike which looks a little tired. Doesn't explain the broad flan though. Very odd. Have you seen another?
Thanks again.
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I think, in my attempt to edit the post, I've messed up the attachment. Here it is again.
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I'm not interested in selling so value isn't an issue. How about the E/B and broad flan. Have you come across these anomalies?
Ta.
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Hi all.
I'd very much welcome your thoughts on this one.
A 1718 dump halfpenny displaying three distinct anomalies.
First: No stops on the obverse. A well documented variety, but certainly scarce.
Second: E over B in REX (or possibly even B instead of E). This is unrecorded in Peck, and the only reference I can find is an example listed in a St. James auction (similar grade to mine but showing some corrosion). There isn't one in the Nicholson collection.
Third: The coin is on a broad flan. All my other 1717 and 1718 halfpennies are approximately 26mm in diameter. This one is 27.5mm.
Have any of you seen anything similar?
Thanks very much.
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Actually. Come to think of it. I saw them at the Glasgow Apollo in May 1976 too. So they were still playing small theatres then.
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True. Although the Soho coins were a huge improvement on those which came before there is often a weakness in the lettering which would have been there in the original strike, and not as a result of subsequent wear.
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My first two gigs were both in April 1971. T Rex and the Rolling Stones. Each about 50p. What would a front of stage stalls ticket for a Rolling Stones show cost these days? Oh, hang on. They haven't done a small theatre show in decades, have they!
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I made a record with Pete Burns…..
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I was at the John Rylands Library recently to see the St. John fragment. Beautiful building. I'll certainly make a point of going to see the coin collection next time I'm over that way. Thanks for suggesting it.
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What would you do with the money if you sold all your coins? Put it in the bank and lose a guaranteed 1 or 2% a year?
There are several people on here who say they have never sold a coin from their collection. It's the tracking down, acquiring and completing goals that drives collectors. Although money is a concern for all bar a handful of people, most seem to buy with a view to building a collection and as a consequence do not insist on everything costing 99p which can then be sold for a fiver. i.e. there is a fair amount of leeway in the price they will pay, and any profits are secondary.
Upgraded coins are always sold or exchanged. What's the point in keeping them? (Unless there's a story behind them, like my first 1926ME penny and 1949 3d, found in change when I was a schoolkid!)
Chris and I have discussed this before. I too have a 1949 3d saved from pocket money in the 1960s. I wouldn't part with that. Same goes for our bun washers. The coins we all dreamt of finding in change back then would have been the 1933 1d, ED VIII 3d, 1952 2/6, 1954 1d. Sadly, this never happened
, so I guess, for nostalgia's sake, I'd still choose these today. -
Is there such a thing? Excellent find if it is!
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Whilst I think the obverse looks ok, the wear on the reverse doesn't look right. Wear should occur evenly across equivalent points of the design, but the thistles look to have differing levels of wear. The thistles also look more worn than they should given the general appearance of the rest of the coin.
All in all, where's that bargepole.
One thing I did notice about the obverse: the rim varies in width. Odd?
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Well the Soho mint coins were the first of a new era so it is a good thing they are a great design.
I must admit I love the cartwheels which are sadly missing in the 1797 format of halfpennies and farthings.
There again there are the patterns of the farthing and halfpenny and the restrikes i surpose
Tip for you : though the reverse design (not being Britannia) leaves something to be desired, you can find 1798 "cartwheel" halfpennies and farthings from The Isle of Man that use the same obverse. Reasonable prices too.
Good tip Chris.
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Nice Arthur. A little bit of trace lustre on it too.
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Last ever Beatles show at Candlestick Park.
If you don't count the rooftop at Abbey Road in 1969...
Nope. I wouldn't.
That was an outdoor film set. No paying audience.
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Nice to have though.
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Do you have a photo Stu?
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Hi Rob.
No displaced 'S'. My original post relates to the strong and obvious extra letter 'V' which sits underneath, way below and to the left of 'V' in Tertivs. Much too far out of alignment to be a double strike.
I do think the damage in the hair area must have happened later.
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What impact would these theories have about the damage to the hair? How does that factor into the explanations or is it totally unrelated?
Good question Dave. I would guess that's post mint damage?
I just wondered if there is any scenario in which the doubled letters could have occurred at the same time as the damage. Looking at it, I'm equally curious about what could have caused those two dents as the letter doubling.
I'm sure that's quite possible. Rob would be the bloke to answer this. Hopefully, he'll give us his opinion.
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Last ever Beatles show at Candlestick Park.
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So, just out of interest, what would you all value this coin at?
I can't see it being worth more than £120 - £150 but value your thoughts.
Mmmm.
The pricing is VERY optimistic indeed, isn't it. Spink quotes £150 for Fine. I think you're right in your estimate, probably even less. If you want it you could always make a cheeky offer, especially if you wait until near the end of the listing time when it becomes obvious to the seller no one is going to pay the opening price.
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The 1717 farthing i would say is worth around £70 so it is not really a pocket money item , in fact after my 30 or so years coin collecting it is still missing from my collection , so you have a least one person on here who feels jealous.
The 1719 coin really is a £10 or £15 item, the small 9 is in fact normal
The 1717 may be worth even a tad more than that. If you paid less than the £70 Arthur, you did well.
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What impact would these theories have about the damage to the hair? How does that factor into the explanations or is it totally unrelated?
Good question Dave. I would guess that's post mint damage?
Unusual 1718 Halfpenny.
in Confirmed unlisted Varieties.
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Here's a link to the St. James coin.
http://stjauctions.com/assets/applets/SJA13part5.pdf