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  1. 1 minute ago, 1949threepence said:

    I don't think it's legit to be honest. It may be my imagination, but at 7 o'clock on one of the images, I thought I detected a trace of old border teeth, and gaps at the bottom of the metal, consistent with the area underneath the Monarch's head.

    If I had to speculate, I'd say it had been tooled at some point, to make it look like a blank

     

    My thoughts too, however wouldn't tooling drop the weight? According to NGC it's 9.5 grams, although I think they've rounded that up.

    The edge is real ragged too, and so many dents and dings all over it.

  2. On 7/11/2016 at 5:29 PM, terrysoldpennies said:

    The thing is that the 1951 has on over inflated reputation, and you cant blame the dealers from cashing in on it. Being one of the older generation I can tell you that people had more on their mind , and little money then to indulge in coin collecting. The boom really came in the 1960s when the introduction of decimal coinage was announced .    Terry

    I like that, shame it's not a penny on a ha'penny!

  3. 16 minutes ago, Bernie said:

    £200 max for a BU 1912H, there are more of these now in existence than a 1912 standard. Same goes for 1951, more common than 1949 in BU.

    What makes you say that, Bernie? Just given the mintage quantities and the fact that all 1951s were shipped to Bermuda once minted.

    I don't disagree that there's plenty of BU 1951s out there, but more than the amount of BU 1949s?

  4. If you have the time Ian, buy some cheap cleaning supplies and get to work on some crappy QEIIs, you'll get to know what they look like using different methods and also the limits of cleaning a coin. Here's a pic of one I had where you can see around the legends where it was cleaned a while ago, it has that 'halo' look to it which you just don't get from natural toning.

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  5. 1 minute ago, 1949threepence said:

    No, it's not cleaned - that's for definite. The coin is lustrous, but just worn looking. As Matt & Pete said, many of the Edward VII pennies have very poor reverses, probably due to inferior dies.

    I first uploaded the pic of that coin back in February 2013, when the issue arose on the first page of this thread 

     

    knew I had seen that coin somewhere! Thanks, that was niggling at the back of my mind :D 

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  6. 7 minutes ago, IanB said:

    Maybe. I am always just amazed how these things are recognised. I would have said it looks okay, and its never easy telling from a picture what the real colour of a coin is.

    I am going to put it out there and make a point that I often see on here someone put a coin up for others to see and sometimes the reply comment is just "cleaned" or "dipped" with no further explanation. 

    It would be good if the person replying gives a bit of a reason why. I enjoy learning from everyone on the forum, but I think it can put some people off from posting if things are explained rather than just cleaned or dipped.

    Fully agree with you there. Sometimes one forgets that people don't necessarily know what you're talking about (especially when it's your area of knowledge) and it's unintentionally assumed, but if you see any like that, question it like you did :) someone will hopefully elaborate.

  7. 25 minutes ago, IanB said:

    What indicates that it has been cleaned?

    I'd guess he's referring to the dark red colour. However I don't think it is and I'd have faith in Mike's opinion as he has the coin in hand and is a seasoned collector.

  8. I'd go as far as 04, 05, 06, 07, sometimes the 09 is a bit mulshy too. There's a stark contrast in quality from the design change using the veiled head to Eddy's bust, they really couldn't get their heads around it for many years after.

  9. 3 minutes ago, Nonmortuus said:

    Yes :)

    Yep, one and the same. Good guy too, he accidentally sent my coin to someone else (who had also bought something) but went out his way to make sure he got it back and then offered it back to me after refunding for the initial mix up. Was very glad he did too :) 

  10. 7 minutes ago, 1949threepence said:

    Well it's certainly not about uncirculated, nor as far as I can see is it an N over sideways N (Z), as suggested by the vendor. 

    69 bids for that, most of them by the same bidder? Yes, very fishy indeed. 

    About as dodgy as a nine bob note, I'd say,

    That bidder's history is also a bit dodgy...

    12 bids on one item, 17 bids on another, 18 on another and 50 on what I guess is this one.

    ..and 5 retracted bids in the last 6 months.. I think I've retracted one or two since I joined years ago.

  11. 2 minutes ago, secret santa said:

    Bog standard F10 (2+D) although the specifics say N over Z. The bidding history looks very suspicious.

    Hmm, well clearly not N over Z (and anyone who is spending 400 quid on one surely knows what they look like). Plus even if it was, it shouldn't be this high. Looks like it's had an olive oil bath.

  12. Just now, 1949threepence said:

    Also, they are prone to the inevitable "cabinet friction".

    I must admit, it would be nice to stumble across a pre decimal coin (of any denomination) that had lain undisturbed in the same spot for a very, very long time. The older the better.

    Although knowing my luck it would be a 1967 penny ^_^ 

    :lol:

    Probably

  13. 3 minutes ago, 1949threepence said:

    Amazing what does turn up from time to time. I imagine that is how some of the most well preserved coins are found. Not in a collection, but having been left in the same place for maybe well over 100 years, having been originally lost or forgotten by the original owner. Especially if they were left somewhere conducive to good preservation.

    One of the nicest coins in my collection I bought from a chap in France who says that, at the time (in 1909) his grandad went to the bank and changed up for various denominations, then wrapped a few mint examples in silk(?) pouches and tucked them away. The penny I bought from him was one of those hidden away since that day, and it's a true stunner.

    I guess even coins in collections are prone being moved around, touched, breathed on etc..

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