Nordle11
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Welcome to the forum Das.
It is possible to remove the soldered parts, it is also possible to restore them fully. It depends on what you're doing with them, if you're making a quick buck then just sell them, if you bought them cheaper than melt. If you want to restore fully, it's probably going to cost you more than the value of the 2 of them.
There's a thread here somewhere, I'll find a link. From what I remember, the guy takes a good 6 months to a year for a full restoration.
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Just now, Rob said:
Given this has now reached 7 pages, is there any way of indexing, or having sub-folders so that similar areas are grouped together? e.g. British Milled, British hammered, European, Tokens, Rest of World - obviously not exhaustive.
Yeah can do, the only way I can think to do it is just to group all similar links into one post, then the next group the the next post etc. I'll add it to the to-do list.
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http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk/
Sort of price guide, but good for browsing. Has lots of pictures too.
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On 19/11/2016 at 4:47 PM, 1949threepence said:
They're still in very high demand, Pete. You've not wasted your money.
Definitely agree and also think you paid a very good price too.
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On 18/11/2016 at 4:03 PM, Stephen ward said:
Yes when I try to post a pic it's over 500kb I have had this on other forum sites so it's easier to get help from others I have sent you the pics Matt so hope you can help identify it.
i do have three boxes of coins I need to go through so will need your help at a later date I'm sure
thanks again
Steve
Hi Steve, so sorry, left work and haven't been near a computer all weekend.
Here is the coin in question..
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Hi Steve and welcome.
We'll need pictures ideally, but I'll pm you my email and put one up for you. You should still be able to post directly from your tablet, however if the picture is over 500kb it will be a pain reducing the size if you're not a computer.
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10 minutes ago, 1949threepence said:
Hahahahahaha *takes a breath* hahahahaha.
Bit expensive.
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13 hours ago, Paulus said:
Thanks for the really interesting replies so far
@Nordle11, could you move this to the TPG discussions section when you have a moment?
of course
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Would've been good but have a meeting in half hour
Good to use the chat then too
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Not a problem, hope you find what you're looking for.
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23 minutes ago, nickname said:
Many thanks "MR Nordle11" But this link you post they have a 75ah gold dinar not 76ah.
I Own this type of this coin
appreciate your help
No problem, it's a slow day at work
sorry that wasn't the right one.
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There is also one example in the British museum as per this PDF. Search for '76' and the info is there.
Seems to me that you're going to struggle to find a value and that you will get quoted wildly different prices (if you're selling the coin that is), because it's pretty rare.
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A quote from an article;
Quote"Eltal goes on to explain that the oldest promissory note was not able to be sustained; it was discontinued after a short period, making it the rarest Umayyad coin. “The Standing Caliph Dinar was canceled between 76AH-77AH (695-696) and that is the main reason behind the extreme rarity thereof,” states Eltal.
The article also shares that the fact that standing caliph dinar coins were minted in Damascus was only recently discovered after an Umayyad gold coin with the city’s name engraved on it was recovered. Until then, it was not known that there was a mint in Damascus. According to Eltal, the Standing Caliph Dinar coin is of the rarest and highest value due to its historical significance and rarity."
From here.
This was published last year and the person who has written it is a collector of these. He has also left his email at the bottom of that page, perhaps it would be helpful to get in touch with him and see if he has anymore information?
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Here's more info for you. Seems like it's probably too rare a coin to have much info on value, unless you can find old auctions.
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I tell them 'just a minute he's right here, I'll get him for you', then leave the phone on the side and carry on with whatever I'm doing until they're gone.
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1 minute ago, bhx7 said:
Just checked Matt, it was a piece of fluff from the the flip. I do think is due to fill though as as Dave G stated in his post the quality across the board is not brilliant.
He, funny place to land!
I'd go die wear too, unless you can find some design specs!
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7 minutes ago, bhx7 said:
Will count beads later today and give you results.
As for the no rivet variety not sure. It has good lustre so think it could be a filled die definitely not circulation wear. Just strange that it's all the rivets. Also if this is the case then there will be more out there. Its also strange to note that Dave G found one as well but dated 2004.
I do see just one rivet on the 2007
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That's some good coining right there, Brian. Keep it going!
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3 minutes ago, 1949threepence said:
Absolutely agree with this. For a start it isn't 100% clear whether the reverse scratches are on the slab or the coin, and furthermore, it's a very nice coin anyway. As you rightly say, Richard, these coins rarely survive in a literally perfect state. After 156 years that would be amazing.
I want to clarify, I would send the coin back if I was buying the coin from the picture and received the coin OP has, because the price (I am assuming) was based on PCGS photos which definitely improve the overall look and state of the coin and therefore the value. The actual coin itself is, as everyone says, stunning and a keeper
if there's not much in it between the 2 then no matter.
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2 minutes ago, azda said:
So a relevant question whilst on the subject of conservation, what is the actual difference when a TPG does this and someone at home perhaps going through a similar process? If a TPG picks up on this it gets a body bagged label stating "hairlines cleaned" why are TPGs allowed to do this and it's ok, yet John Doe gets a cleaned label.
The other gripe i have is to do with the Matt proofs wiped at the mint, i got a PF62 grade for hairlines and IMO it was better than a lot i've seen in that grade, but Catherines also has hairlines on the REV from cleaning and gets a 66 grade, so are we talking favouritism towards certain submitters?
Do as they say and not as they do seems the rule there.
I mean they do look at coins in a LOT of detail so could be something we can't see with the naked eye? I don't know, but IMO a coin with die wipe lines on should definitely grade higher than a coin cleaned by someone outside of the mint if the actual grades are exactly the same.
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9 minutes ago, secret santa said:
Cathrine, I don't know what you paid for the coin but I'd be inclined to keep it. These coins very rarely survive in pristine condition unless they've been protected from day one and your own coin photos show exactly how most of these early proofs appear in hand. I just wish I had the knowledge to photograph my coins in the way that PCGS did - my collection would look absolutely stunning !
For what it's worth, I think your pictures convey the actual coins very well and would much prefer seeing them as they are than with the 'improvement' filter applied
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7 hours ago, azda said:
Catherine, my opinion, for what it's worth to you is this, send it back and get bidding on the one at Londoncoins with the Wyon provenance (sorry Atlas)
I'm in agreement with azda, it'll probably cost you less too as Atlas do seem to be in the upper echelons of the pricing band.
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6 hours ago, bagerap said:
Cathrine, I don't have the experience of most of the other members. However, I am a dealer in medals and very many of those from this period remain in pristine condition. If this coin were a medal, I'd return it as not as described. I am more than familiar with this portrait and there is an irregularity around the top of the neck I do not like which, coupled with the termination of the left hand ribbon make this a no from me.
I wouldn't go as far as not described because the PCGS picture shows those faults, however if I'd bought the coin based on the PCGS picture, then received a coin looking more like Catherine's pictures, I'd return it too.
Cleaning Coins!
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Here's the thread
The guy's name is Alan Stockton, you can see in that thread an example that he's done for a member here. Very impressive. The price actually didn't seem all that bad either..