secret santa
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As Ian says, this is the result of a die clash and definitely NOT a "distinct ribbon knot".
Some people may find it collectable, but it is not, in my view, an intentional or accidental man-made "variety".
I have an example myself but I haven't even bothered to distinguish it from a "normal" 1859 large date penny.
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Yes, the legend spacing is quite different between pennies and halfpennies.
See my websites below for pictures.
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9 hours ago, Sword said:
I haven't brought a copy for sometime and wonder if Sovereign Rarities has done a reasonable / good job for the 2025 and 2026 catalogues.
It's exactly the same - they haven't changed a thing.
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Oh dear, time to leave this Forum I guess.
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Yes, at a certain angle with my coin above you can detect the H.
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Come on guys, I go to this thread for a chuckle, not to read personal remarks.
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Very similar to a coin of mine
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Yes, there is no substitute for pictures of the actual coin.
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6 hours ago, alfnail said:
Another one of these sold on ebay a couple of days ago for over £260. Perhaps a little better than the one Pete pictured above last year, but not great. Again not attributed, but nevertheless attracted a lot of interest.
I did message the seller to tell him what it was but he chose not to amend the description and luckily several people recognised it.
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I have now added this type to my rarest pennies site and would be grateful to see any other examples.
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Ever since Michael Freeman gave a degree of "validation" to this sort of flaw by recording the 1897 Dot as F147, more and more examples have been found.
The following is an excerpt from the page on Dot pennies on my rarest pennies site.
https://rarestpennies.wordpress.com/scarce-dot-pennies/
There are many examples of pennies with small raised circular “dots” on either the obverse or reverse, now thought to be caused by a rust spot on a working die which eventually is removed by successive strikes leaving an incuse area which produces the raised flaw when creating the coin (see my article in Coin News June 2022 quoting Paul Holland's investigations into the cause).
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Best of luck with all those tests, Rob.
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All Greek to me, I'm afraid.
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2 hours ago, Peckris 2 said:
I actually have the 1970 edition - I wonder if those errors were corrected in later printings? I bought mine new and I don't remember seeing that insert.
As I wrote in an earlier post -
Regarding pennies, an addition not incorporated into the 1985 edition:
Page 31, number 80A (1875 8+H with H below date) - can we assume that this coin does not exist ?
Some of the changes/additions were incorporated in the 1985 edition but at least one (the one above) was not. I have only checked the comments on pennies.
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Really interesting - I've added it to my rare penny site with a question mark.
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Regarding pennies, an addition not incorporated into the 1985 edition:
Page 31, number 80A (1875 8+H with H below date) - can we assume that this coin does not exist ?
I have never seen it referenced anywhere, including Gouby.
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Where does this come from, Pete ?
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Iain Dracott records both types.
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On my websites, I define a "variety" as a unique combination of date, obverse and reverse design, and include any inadvertent man-made changes such as repairs or variations in date width as "sub-varieties". Michael Gouby has made an attempt to record all the various date widths in his book "The Victorian Bronze Penny". He does not record any variations in 1864 date width but these date variations are so commonplace in bronze pennies that it would be virtually impossible to document them all.
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I am no longer allowed to "Edit" a post - is this intentional ?
Ah, it's hidden behind the 3 dots !!!!
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And it's still "BB".
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3 hours ago, Paddy said:
Has anyone told the vendor?
They must have, because he (or she) has changed it to toothed (but it's still a "boarder" !).
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An interesting coin, presumably minted whilst Victoria was in rented accommodation trying to hide her facial hair from the nation ?
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Minor differences in Britannia's hair 1862 Penny.
in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
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Yes, buy it if you like it but, in my opinion, there's nothing really to get excited about.