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I now find that I can't view this site other than home page - are other people having trouble ?

You can view the coins on the owner(forum member)'s website.

Some cracking coins in that collection !!!!!!!

Coinery, are all these Edward VII coins in your possession ?

Quality article - the header implies that there is a bronze penny article ? If so, I'd love to see it.

I can't believe that a coin worth less than £10K 13 years ago can be worth over 4 times that now !!! But someone will probably cough up

No - four candles maybe.........

I agree - thumb short of the cross.

Welcome to another penny man !!!

Yes, it was that blob of light on the tail of the 3 that threw me.

Don't like to pour cold water on, but I'm not convinced it's an open 3.................

Do they allow visitors to take photos ?

Got 2 B of B 50p coins today in the Cotswolds.

Nice story

Good spot - rare coin. For me the indicator is the wide date with the sea not crossing the linear circle.

When John Jerrams published his coin census in 2003 the populations for dies numbers were die 5 (1), die 3 (3), die 2 (4) and die 4 (6). As you say the die 4's have rocketed since then but I haven't seen too many more die 2 and 3 specimens. I think Bernie has got a good handle on these ?

You're right - corrected it and added the rare penny website.

Thanks Matt - nothing I've done but I've reset it now.

which suggests that it may be a filled die in the wave area.

Interesting - good spot - have we got to check every date from now on...............?

Interesting point that you make Ian regarding the level of interest - maybe the number of collectors of Victorian penny varieties is decreasing. Several collections have been brought to market over the last 10 years and possibly these collectors aren't being replaced with new ones ? I would have thought that as us baby boomers relax into retirement, the numbers might swell but maybe not...........

As well as the excellent photos in the Guide to Grading book, there is a really useful list of descriptions on page 5 where it gives estimates of years that a coin will have been in circulation to be a particular grade. For example, an EF coin will, on average, have been in circulation for about 1 year whereas a Fine coin could have been around for 30 years or so. Your coin would seem to fit the 5 years of circulation that describes VF . By picking coins out of your change, you should be able to get a good feel for wear as there will be decimal coins in your pocket up to 45 years old, and there should be a good range from F to Aunc.

Yes, it's the sort of thing I can add to whenever I get spare time. The concept has worked quite well with the F41 variety. I have received details of an example from a fellow collector (do you have one Jerry ?) and I am already up to 15 pictured examples which matches Gouby's known population, so that figure is beginning to look rather low. I am in 2 minds whether to quote the prices realised for each example - there are pros and cons (not the least being the reduction of the chances of getting a bargain if sellers can see the market !).

I've compiled a gallery of most of the F41 pennies sold in the last 14 years and they're a pretty grim lot, apart from one or two nice ones. See website below, rarepennies

The coin was actually unsold in the auction but I bought it afterwards. Despite its flaws it was the best that Laurie Bamford had managed to get hold of in all his years of collecting and it went for less than it sold for in his sale (in which most coins were reasonably priced in my view). I'd love a better one but I'm not likely to get one.