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Yes I wish there were some way of stopping the constant stream of new "rareties" that Ebay sellers keep inventing. I regularly sell collectable decimal coinage at flea markets and I am approached almost every week by someone trying to tell me about the latest scarcity going for a fortune on the net. Poorly struck letters, missing dots and "upside down" lettering are standard fare. Then there are the attempts to declare some regular struck coin as rare - there was a concerted effort to make the Benjamin Britten 50p into another Kew Gardens recently.
Two rumours I am less sure are spurious, which someone here might be able to clarify:
The water lines across the face on the Olympics 2011 Aquatics 50p
The 2015 Battle of Britain 50p struck with the type 4 obverse instead of the type 5, resulting in a coin with no denomination.
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I was never a great fan of the Whitman folders - either the coins kept falling out and people used glue or selotape to hold them in, or they got so firmly stuck that you destroyed the folder if you tried to remove them.
I think the gap in the market has been filled to an extent by the new "Coin Hunter" series, which I think is from the Royal Mint. Certainly it has boosted the interest in all modern 50ps, not just the Olympic ones.
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I switch allegiance to the pre-strike camp, an idea I had not heard of before. I cannot see them as adjustment marks - no one would adjust across the centre of the coin, particularly if it meant defacing the monarch. I hear the arguments against it being deliberate defacement - the parallel nature of the lines and the fact that they are evident in other places on the coin away from the head.
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As I am also a member on the US Cointalk forum I passed on a link to this thread over there. It seems that many of them already know of this company and none (so far) have a good word to say of them.
Here is the link: https://www.cointalk.com/threads/dodgy-company-from-the-us-trying-it-on-in-the-uk.284440/#post-2530327
although may need to login/register in order to see it.
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I go the other way - I have always seen adjustment marks done to the edge of the coin, often with a file. I can't see the practicality of scraping metal off across the middle. Also it would have been taken as a slight to the king in any case.
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1 minute ago, Paulus said:
Don't forget the milled issues of Charles I too ...
Haven't seen any of those yet - another gap to deal with! (but to be fair I would rather a Saxon penny to fill one of my gaps....)
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1 minute ago, Nordle11 said:
What about the pennies with KN?

If you want to do some penny variety hunting, you can't go wrong looking here
What's your period of collecting (as in 1860 - 1970)?
Yes of course I have the KNs - I was just being brief!

Thanks for all your links - I will investigate later.
My period collecting is ALL milled - so Oliver Cromwell to the latest decimal coins. (And yes, the Elizabeth I milled examples when I can get them too.) The only recent exclusion is the modern £5 coins since the Royal Mint went crazy with the numbers and prices of these non-circulation issues. (I also don't count Channel Islands etc - mainland English/British only.) And Gold is out - just can't afford it.
In Bronze I am complete on all the standard issues right through, though some of the scarcer ones are pretty rough. Lots of gaps in the tin issues. Silver - missing a handful back to 1860, thereafter missing quite a few of the larger denominations back to 1694. Before that I have quite a few, but more gaps than ticks, to the beginning of Charles II. No Cromwell yet.
And just to keep me going I set a newer target of one of each monarch in the hammered back as far as I can go...
So seriously insane!
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2 minutes ago, Colin G. said:
What bronze denominations do you collect? If it is pennies then Gouby is the correct choice, if it is farthings or halfpennies then you would be better with other references
I am very sad - I collect ALL denominations of British milled coins, but I have confined myself to standard issues so far. I have examples of all the Standard pennies with and without H except the mega-rare. I have the same for Halfpennies and farthings except a few early tin ones. (To do this I have been prepared to take coins in any condition to start with and have then gradually upgraded.) I have quite a few varieties of Pennies and halfpennies that I have been able to identify, but I do not know if any of my "standard" ones are actually rarer varieties. (Most have come from collections bought at Car boot sales and general auctions, so most have not been through the hands of a serious collector recently.)
Hence my interest in learning more and spending some happy winter months going through them and, hopefully, finding a few pleasant surprises!
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5 hours ago, Nordle11 said:
The new Freeman is the new publication from Chris, it's an updated version, have a look here for a list of all the books that are sold by Chris (including that new Freeman)
I would definitely recommend that, and the following;
- Gouby (http://www.michael-coins.co.uk/) I believe you can buy them directly from him, ask him to sign it if you do
- Groom (a forum member here) you can buy his book here > https://www.amazon.com/Identification-British-Century-Bronze-Varieties/dp/1409285502 and is a must if you want to seriously get into varieties, it has a lot in there that the others don't cover
You can get Peck, it's a great book but most is covered in these 3 books. Depending on how far back you go, there are other publications like Jerrams' study (I forget the name) on early Victorian bronze or Bramah (but I think that's coppers only).
The first 3 will get you where you want to go for now
That's great - thanks. I will get onto it!
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Looking for some advice! With all the chat over variations in this forum I am inclined to improve my knowledge and reference library - particularly for British Bronze coinage. I have quite a few excellent condition examples in my collection, but I only know of the main variations listed in ESC, so I may have some satrs lurking in the depths!
I have ESC of course but find it very limited and difficult to follow in this area. I have an old copy of Freeman but I gather this is out of date in many areas. I presume I need Gouby - what is the latest printing, how much should I expect to pay and where might I get a copy? Do I need Peck? Is there anything else I should go for? (I saw some chat about a new publication coming from Chris P on the topic, but I haven't seen a publication date (or am I being blind again?).)
Thanks!
Paddy
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3 hours ago, copper123 said:
Give it a year and they will be up to £150
That's what I am counting on. I have a spare stashed away now to await the day.
Now - where's the email address for the Daily Mail?

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2 hours ago, Nordle11 said:
I think they're scans? But he's right, you should up the scan quality!
Yes they are scans as you supposed. I do not have the camera equipment to take better shots, and the only option on the scanner is to double the dpi - which runs into the picture size limits!
One day I will get into better photography but at the moment my cash is spent on the coins, not on photographing them. :-)
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You are right - Svein forkbeard and Edmund Ironside are impossible, Eadwig very difficult. By my reckoning going back to Egbert I need 11 more, so it could be some time!
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This forum seems to have been a bit quiet for a while!
A long time ago I set myself the target of getting one coin from each of the Wessex/All England kings. I got to seven about 4 years ago and have stalled since then. Here's what I have so far for your comment/appreciation. (I hope not to hear the word "fake" too much, but if you have your suspicions please say so.)
Aethelred II:
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Ah - OK - a useful link thanks. Only another 7 posts and it will look a lot better at "Newmismatist"!
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Are we able to change the tag below our avatar in our profile somewhere? Mine shows as "Unidentified Variety" which is a bit uncomfortable! :-)
I would like it to say something like "Eccentric Enthusiast" if that is allowed?
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new collector, need help with my lord kitchener £2 coin and others-
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It seems to be real, though I am not sure how rare yet. This is one of many completed listings for them:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/50p-2015-Battle-Of-Britain-ERROR-NO-DENOMINATION-Uncirculated-/182192563983?hash=item2a6b85e70f%3Ag%3AYToAAOSwvg9XWVVH&nma=true&si=zZhGW%252BO%252B5CIGHB58mUnWTxAkPqo%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
It may not be an error as such, and it seems possible the early release coins in the folders were struck with the 4th bust (and no denomination) whereas the circulation run was struck with the 5th bust. Not found the 4th bust in circulation yet.