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Paddy

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  1. I have forgotten who, but haven't we an Ebay executive on here somewhere now?

    I can't even find a mechanism for reporting fraudulent listings on Ebay anymore. Have they removed it completely? Clearly they are not at all interested in preventing fraud.

     

     

  2. This has  now been taken down after I had a long message conversation with the seller through Ebay. The seller says they have a number of interesting sounding pennies that they want to share/discuss/sell and I have suggested they come to this forum as there are better experts here than anywhere else!

    Hopefully they turn up here soon.

     

  3. It appears to have started life as a halfpenny from the 1770s, whether regal or a contemporary counterfeit is difficult to tell with the level of wear. I has been machined to create the raised rim on both sides. I have seen this done before to create a ferrule for the end of a walking stick, but these are usually deeper and one sided. Not quite sure what purpose this one was created for - possibly to fit on the base of a chair leg?

     

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  4. Over the Christmas break, with nothing better to do, I did a bit more research.

    ESC confirms that the roses in angles silver of this period use silver from "The West of England".

    Researching silver mines in the West, there are not too many options, and of these many were not operating in the 18th century. Only two areas seem to be working: Combe Martin and Cornwall. Cornwall's main focus was on tin and copper, though some silver was produced almost as a by-product. So it does seem that the bulk, if not all the silver in this 1739 Crown would have come from Combe Martin.

    A nice little addendum to a pleasing coin.

     

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  5. They are a challenge to shift. You used to be able to get 25p each for them at the PO or Bank, but not sure that works anymore.

    I see bulk lots of them turn up regularly at local clearance auctions, often diluted with a few other coins (sometimes silver) to sweeten the pill. Really that is just shifting the problem onto somebody else, but at least it gets them out of your life!

    I have a box full somewhere too. 

  6. An historical query:

    As posted elsewhere I recently acquired a 1739 Crown. When I showed it to a friend, who also collects, he immediately said that the 1739 coins were made from silver from the Combe Martin silver mines, which is fairly local to me here.

    I have done a little research online and have found no mention of this. There is plenty about the Combe Martin silver being used for coins during the Civil War 1647-1648.

    Anyone know any more or have any reference they can point me to?

    A picture of the coin to make it more interesting:

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  7. I have a spreadsheet that lists all the denominations by date back to 1655, showing which combinations are possible and which not, but it does not have dimensions or weights etc.

    PM if you would like a blank copy. (I fill in the grade of the coins I have in each cell so that I know which I am looking for, or which would be an upgrade, when I am out shopping.)

     

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  8. Nice example. I would think it would go down as Peck 689 - both bars missing. The comment in Peck about numerous errors and the use of inverted Vs for As would cover the possibility of a partial bar I think.

    I have one of these too, but not as good as yours!

     

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  9. I think these problems arise when a shadow copy of the website has a file that has become corrupted. When a website is used, intermediary servers around the world keep copies of core files to save having to keep going back to the host server. This also explains why updates to websites often take a few days to propagate all round the world.

    The shadow copies are updated periodically, so eventually the corrupted file is replaced and everything returns to normal. I don't know of any means of forcing a refresh of shadow copies, so patience is the only option.

    But it is always worth reporting in case the problem is on the host rather than a copy.

     

  10. There are others who are far more expert than I am on Charles I shillings. I am sure they will chip in soon.

    In the meantime: Yes it is a Charles I shilling. The XII behind the head is for 12 pence - a shilling, and the "Carolus" above the head confirms Charles.

    The next key thing is to work out the mintmark - you can see just the base of this before the word Carolus. It could be the Tun, but others may correct me.

    Yes, clipping of these coins is common, even though it was a Capital offence.

    Value in that condition is difficult to assess. Unless it proves to be a rare variety I suspect the sentimental value as you first good find will outweigh any price at market.

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