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https://nnp.wustl.edu/library/book/556493 has an article on an 1837 groat using threepence obverse 3 (I think).
Davies isn't clear but is groat obverse 2 the same as threepence obverse 2, groat obverse 3 the same as threepence obverse 3 and groat obverse 4 the same as threepence obverse 4?
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My inclination is to say deliberate damage but that's more gut feel, because I'm not sure how it could have happened during normal production.
I think dies were made to be slightly concave/convex (I don't remember the exact reason) but certainly not to that extreme.
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Related to this coin - I assume the number of VIP proof sets struck is unknown but I'm guessing dozens at most? Some searching show the mayor of London/governor of the BBC got one but other than that I couldn't find much information.
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One benefit of collecting these niche areas - you can get some good buys on the rarities.
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13 hours ago, VickySilver said:
IMHO the latest is not even as good as the 6th edition primarily because I have seen very little added and the loss of the provenance section.
Was anything of interest added?
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Interesting - I would never have guessed that.
Were any of the early bronze patterns medal orientation?
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I wonder why they bothered for such small mintages - could the sale from 50 coins have covered costs even?
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And why were the bronze coins in medal orientation from 1860 as well for that matter?
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9 hours ago, Menger said:
Correction - The mule is 3d obverse young head #3 not #2 as stated above.
Unlisted in Davies by the looks of it?
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Is that still on TV?
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Nice, though I don't suppose there's a third edition in the works.
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Oh, and it's paired with both obverse 1 and obverse 2 as well? Is there a picture of it paired with obverse 1?
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Nice find - I didn't think there would be any new farthing discoveries at this point, least of all in the Elizabeth II series.
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On 4/13/2022 at 3:25 PM, VickySilver said:
The RAM Australian Mint has made some scarcities during these years as well but some of the rarities remain a bit obscure - Mister T knows far more than I about these .....
I really need to try and get my hands on some of those earlier mint reports - the mintage figures should be there.
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Well done. I probably would have caved and bought them but it's good you got them at a good price.
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Is the other high grade example die number 17 too?
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Like the little tray at the bottom of an old coin phone.
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Which bit are you unconvinced about - that they were struck for colonial use or that they were struck for circulation at all?
I'm not too familiar with the early threepences but I'm guessing that most surviving examples are Maundy money and they're generally rare because either they were exported or not actually struck (for circulation) but at this point we have no way of knowing either way.
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Maybe but Collectors Coins Great Britain says not, and neither does https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces4412.html
Some of them have mintages listed too which isn't conclusive but it'd suggest at least some of the years were made for circulation.
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What are the 1846, 1847, 1849, 1852 and 1853 varieties? I see nothing in Davies or Bull.
Also, why are 1847, 1848 and 1852 missing in Davies altogether?
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On 2/26/2022 at 9:33 PM, terrysoldpennies said:
It was way back in Oct 2014 that I discovered the new 2*, so that's nearly eight years ago now. There must have been many test types made, but after test runs found them to be unserviceable for the long production lines needed were then destroyed with no examples surviving through to the present day . But I guess we'll all will keep looking , as you never know what's going to turn up !!
Oh time flies! And yes I suppose even with the ones we do know of, it's lucky that any survived.
On 2/26/2022 at 10:31 PM, jelida said:At least two reasonably discrete true varieties have turned up since the 2* obverse, both overstrikes, the F33 ‘N over inverted N’ that I described on this forum, and the F15 ‘R over A in Victoria’. New varieties still seem to turn up every few years and I am sure more will be found though progressively fewer in this intensely studied series. But you do certainly have to watch out for mistakes in EBay listings, they are not infrequent though usually obvious.
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Ah of course. I don't keep as close a track of the legend errors but even the inverted A in VICTORIA (1862?) is reasonably new I think.
Anyway, I suppose there are lots of countries where an 1860 or 1861 penny is just that too - no local interest in Freeman numbers, so there's still hope.
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Hm, there might be a way to automatically download it - I'll have to look into it when I have some time.
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I only had a brief look but in my notes I had obverses 4 and 5 with the rotated D in F:D: and obverse 6 having the straight D in F:D: (from Dracott's articles I think).
I didn't look too closely at which obverse it actually was but the D looks a bit rotated to the right.
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Agreed - it is a good likeness. As for the monogram - I agree, but I suppose they needed something.