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On 10/3/2023 at 10:49 AM, Bronze & Copper Collector said:
1862 A to LEFT of Lighthouse - Nearer to Rim
Poor quality, difficult to see, but I believe the rocks are there.
Do you have the coin in hand to check? I haven't been able to find a lot of die letter A examples but it looks like the coins with A near or touching the linear circle have faint/no rocks while the coins with the A touching the lighthouse definitely have rocks.
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Exactly - it's clever but I didn't think the designs looked good on their own either.
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Interesting, there are more die letter A examples than I expected.
Anyway, left with more questions than answers as usual.
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I agree - nice designs.
I was never a fan of the sections of shield.
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And a little bit of an update to this - I haven't done a in-depth study of the G with rock/G with no rock from 1861 to 1873, but I have had a brief look.
From 1863 to 1873, the pictures I have at hand all seem to show a rock (though a bit faint at times).
More interestingly, the 1862 with A to left of lighthouse has no rocks while the 1862 with A to right of lighthouse has a rock, at least from the handful of images I've looked at (https://www.baldwin.co.uk/product/victoria-1837-1901-halfpenny-1862-die-letter-a-rrr/, https://www.londoncoins.co.uk/?page=Pastresults&auc=124&searchlot=555&searchtype=2, https://www.londoncoins.co.uk/?page=Pastresults&auc=162&searchlot=2355&searchtype=2).
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I don't really track US coins but yeah probably the high mintage would be part of it.
I'd assume that collectors are very much divided (like here) into classic (1960s or earlier) and modern (alphabet sets/state quarters) and maybe these sets fall in between.
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Looking forward to hearing what comes of it.
It's good that the Royal Mint still do look into things like this - the Royal Australian Mint stopped years ago I believe.
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Two to three production runs makes sense.
Maybe - I think there are some modern mules that are too good to be true. This one seems plausible given the similarity between dies at least.
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I assume they weren't all made in one run (the regular ones anyway). How does it work? I assume the coins are for sale for a year or so, during which the Royal Mint will keep producing them as long as they keep selling.
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Hard to say - I don't know of any study of die markers.
I do have in my notes that Dracott says it also exists as a circulated coin, but now I don't remember where that's from. If it's not in his July 2004 article, maybe his more recent article - November 2021 I think.
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I think it's A#? The date is wider and Britannia has short hair.
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Ah nice thank you.
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On 7/11/2023 at 10:59 AM, BottleCapDave said:
Does anyone here know anything about this relatively new listing for English Silver Coinage 30th Anniversary edition by P Alan Rayner? Published 15/03/2023. According to the description, I believe it is a update of the 5th revision with variety additions using the original Seaby numbering system and updated photos? This is not listed on the spinkbooks.com website which seems weird to me as it is a Spink published book. I guess it is time to send an email.
https://www.foyles.co.uk/book/english-silver-coinage-original/p-alan-rayner/9781912667765
Any information about this will be gladly received, TIA.
I was looking at this the other day and it says release date September 2024 - was that there before? I didn't see it as in stock anywhere last time I went looking either.
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Looks like it's the browser - https://stackoverflow.com/questions/66348773/this-form-is-not-secure-autofill-has-been-turned-off-only-in-chrome
The forums isn't served with HTTPS which is why you're getting the error, but I'm a bit confused as to why it's not happening for everyone.
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There was no picture of the coin in the article and no NGC holder number was given. I don't think you can get the image from NGC without the holder number.
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This got a mention in the last issue of Coin News I think but there were no pictures.
I don't normally keep track of decimal stuff but it looks like a 2022 five pound was struck with a two pound obverse. Only one known so far.
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Iain Dracott's article just says some reverse G have missing rocks, mainly from 1861 to 1863. More research required I guess.
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Ah yeah I checked Mal Lewendon's photos and he notes a reverse G with no rocks, but doesn't give much more detail than that I think.
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Looking forward to hearing what comes of it.
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Same here in Australia - some reporter sees something on TikTok or the like and runs yet another story on the same coin that they ran a couple of years back.
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Hm is it die fill? I dug up some pictures of reverse G and it looks like the rocks can be quite weak.
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Reverse G is 1861 to 1873 - I think there's a small rock but I guess it's the "no rocks" reverse?
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Okay I finally got around to doing it and it looks like the 7 at denticle is a normal 1887 sixpence, besides the date difference. It has 119 rim denticles like Davies 1160 and the leaves and berries all appear the same to me.
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On 7/11/2023 at 2:22 AM, BottleCapDave said:
I have spent some time creating major variety lists per reign using Google sheets. Nothing sophisticated, just reference numbers, dies id's and their descriptions etc. I will say Groom has been helpful with higher quality images and more detailed descriptions of Davies' varieties. As a newbie I have yet to pick up Rayner's book, does he include any major die varieties not listed in Davies?
The 1837 mule sixpence is one that's missing from Davies, but the coverage in Davies is generally better.
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Facebook Coin Pages/Groups?
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I don't care for Discord as a forum replacement - not so easy to search, and it's very easy to miss a discussion if you leave it too long. Forums and threads work best I think, and that's what I prefer.