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copper123

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  1. 7 hours ago, copper123 said:

    Would you believe it I have found another "Mule" in my recent buy on ebay.

    This time its a quarter sov and a half farthing mule struck on a brass flan , really interesting

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    This of course makes it one of the very few coins with two different dates on it 1848 and 1849

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  2. Both coins are in lowish sort of grades so it would be foolish to say if they were a filled die or not , you would have to find several much higher grade coins to say with any certainty , shows I spotted it as well though doesn't it?


  3. Just discovered another new variety of Lauer's model coins this time its a Half crown 1897 quite a scarce coin anyway I have both varieties one reads HALF CROWN and the other HALF  ROWN in other words the "C" is missing .

    Anyone any idea if its listed?


  4. Sounds like a few of the rarities in your collection need airing on here kai , we all need an idea of what to look out for .

    Funny thing is even though its very rare you would probably only get £15 for it max .

    Thanks for getting back so quick and also for your great knowledge 


  5. Here's another rare mule model coin I found in a mixed lot 

    As you can see its an Edward double florin which to my knowledge does not even exist in the edward 1902 set anyway it,  so I am sure its a mule - anyone with a copy of rogers book could they please check its in there , thanks ,

    Anyway the pics 

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  6. I must say that the decimal coins at least would not be something I would choose to spend my money on , but there again people collect different things don't they?

    The farthing I would spend money on but there again not a lot ,for what is probably a unique piece.

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  7. 8 minutes ago, Diaconis said:

    Just a thought. Suppose we believe Hobbes that the state of nature is a horrible place where laws do not exist, property is non-existent, and everyone is out for themselves without a care for others. That then is the motivation to work and pay a portion of the proceeds from the fruits of our labours to maintain a government to protect us, and maintain natural law.

    The irony is that the value we are getting for our buck these days is inversely proportional to the greed and self-centeredness of the government itself. 

    Regressing into the state of nature and paying for the privilege 😃 Has a Pythonesque feel to it.

     

    Like buying natwest with public money then the public being sold it back , just cause some narcissist trashed the whole company  

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  8. 1 hour ago, Paddy said:

    Interesting discussion on the worst king title possible here. I'm not sure I would agree with @copper123. I would suggest John as the worst - corrupt and greedy. After that it gets closer for second worst - Edward II, Richard II, Stephen and Edward VI are all good contenders with Charles I. George IV I let off as by then the monarch had virtually no power, and so could do little damage. Not sure what you have against James I - apart from his penchant for killing old women because he thought they were witches?

     

    yes he remains the only british king to have published a book and its a pile of rubbish .

    from what I recall witches were only burned in scotland was it (?)  the pendle witches not sure how they died but they did and just because they were were old and without husbands .

    James did like his art though and is responsible for quite a lot of the royal art collection which is owned by the crown which is you and me by the way through the goverment

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  9. 1 hour ago, Paddy said:

    Interesting discussion on the worst king title possible here. I'm not sure I would agree with @copper123. I would suggest John as the worst - corrupt and greedy. After that it gets closer for second worst - Edward II, Richard II, Stephen and Edward VI are all good contenders with Charles I. George IV I let off as by then the monarch had virtually no power, and so could do little damage. Not sure what you have against James I - apart from his penchant for killing old women because he thought they were witches?

     

    Yes there were some really bad plantagenet kings , I must admit I was concentrating on more recent kings  as it is easier as the older kings and their legacies fade into the past maybe a get out on my behalf 

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  10. I have little time for people who claim Charles was murdered (Only my opinion by the way )

    While he was beheaded he had many times been asked to plead guilty and say sorry and he would be well looked after , he refused to see common sense and carried on with his ridiculous inalienable right of kings defence .

    He remains a total prima donna and while George IV was probably the worst king  we ever had, Charles runs into second place along with his father in third

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  11. 5 hours ago, Paddy said:

    I fear we are more of a bureaucracy at the moment, ruled by an ever expanding Civil Service and semi-autonomous organisations that seem determined to ignore the will of the people and even our elected representatives in a trenchant defence of their own jobs and beliefs.

    There is no limit to the casual cruelty of the bureaucrat!

    well it must be the fault of the conservatives then seeing they have been in power 75% of the time

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  12. Working in the army used to be a last resort job unless you were in public school and could get a job straight away as an officer even up till the first world war veterans were treated dreadfully even if they had medals , few got war pensions from war injuries as they were made very hard to claim and mental illness was rewarded with the workhouse  or worse still Bedlam where the public paid a small fee too see the  lunatics..

    Officers got treated better but not by much.

     

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  13. Heres an interesting "Mule " model lauer gold coin dated 1887 when it should be at least five years after that.

    Not in the best of grade but I would like to wager there are very few around 

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  14. On 4/28/2024 at 10:46 AM, ozjohn said:

    Yes it is always caveate emptor for collectors. Here in Australia we have self managed superannuation funds where you make your own decisions on your investments of which collectables such as coins can form a part of. Assuming you go this way you want to be sure you are making a good investment and rely on TPGs. In this case you would be badly misinformed on the value of your investment. In addition there are limits to the amount of investment for tax purposes and auditing that rely on an accurate estimate of the value of your assets.

    You can also do this in the uk to some extent though most tend to stick with their final salary plans and company pensions .

    the best thing to do is make your own business decisions and never bother too much about what someone else considers is an "Investment" this also insures that you really have noone to blame but yourself for picking a turkey.

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