copper123

I see the press have suddenly found out that the kew gardens 50p is increadably rare and we are are informed it is worth £120 on ebay . They sure took their time over that one I feel sure that mine will soon appear on there for some numptie to have for £50 The joys of coin collecting ........

P.s The alignment of the obverse and reverse often gives it away as well , while I think it's a fake i cannot really tell for sure unless i have it in hand

i have spent hundreds of fake pound coins , there are loads in circulation BOE sez at least 5% in circ are fakes. Why do i say it's a fake? The details on both the obverse and reverse are indistinct and less good than u would expect a genuine coin to have - in particular the queens hair is very flat - also there is a massive crack on the reverse royal mint would spot that and pull die out of production

looks like a fake to me - so best thing to do is just get rid

selling up and buying a nice place in spain at a bargain price if he has any sense.

anyone remember peter butterworth from knutsford?

coins are like women then lol

Watching bemused as the revelations in the press on the undated 20p and the low mintage rare kew gardens 50p i wonder did these announcements in the press always follow the same formula , say back in the mid sixties ie, press announces to the public that 1949 and 1946 threepence coins are rare , hysteria among the general public follows with frantic change checking , leading to there being none of the coins in circulation in three months time. i surpose there are a few old timers out there who might remember but i am a little too young (thank god for that really , i feel ancient!)

peach of a coin

this is very strange he describes the coins as incredably good condition in one sentence then says they are in no better than fine grade , like i said very strange

bet you remember the coin fairs in that pub in bolton then in the seventies , damn i cannot remember its name now but if you ever went you would have remembered the experience

i bought a nicer a/unc for the same price on ebay It did take a few weeks till a nice enough one came alomg - but it did eventually

Funny enough though the 2009 proof and unc sets are very common and would fetch more or less than issue price a few years ago they are now all the rage on ebay fetching big £££££. It is actually the circulating 50p coins that are rare , the proofs and to a lesser extent the unc sets really common.

william silver is hard to find in nice grade - most that is around is very worn

And what has this thread to do with pre decimal coins?

coins detail would not be as good if the copper plate is striped off , so i am inclined to go with you

the steel core is not a possability then?

Why not give it a miss if you think its been dipped or cleaned. There are hundreds for sale on ebay that have not been cleaned or diped. simples

So I would guess press manipulation of the public and their interests in numismatic circles is more a modern thing then , it's not as though the low mintage of the kew gardens 50p was a big secret or anything it's not , i must have picked around 12 or so from change at work over the years , funny enough since the press announcement i have seen none

i think it is a miracle it has been identified as a penny

I remember in the betting for a name for prince George , "Bradley" was a 100/1 shot , prob. after Bradley wiggins

wasn't he the one born of victoria , queen victorias oldest ofspring who started the first world war - a very bad man - also many believe the reporations from the first world war caused the second so in the end he was responsable for quite a few european deaths . i do belive he retired in exile and live to a good old age as well - there is never any real justice is there?

name always change you just look at the names of the roman emperors in the first second and third and fourth centuries they were changing pretty rapid back then . look at the popular names 100 yrs ago and compare them to now heeps of difference . I would emagine in another 100 years exactly the same thing will happen again. in other words savanah , sky, peaches fifi trixabell or chantel will have died out and newer ones will have arived instead

you have bits and pieces of EVERYTHING scott

if its unc its more like 10 euros EF is about 3 euros