Coin aquisition of the week.......

[Coin aquisition of the week.......]

My latest Charles I halfcrown, courtesy of Messrs. Bull & Worby

[Charles I York Halfcrown Provenance Sought]

3 minutes ago, kildonan said:

Sorry to put a spanner in the works! I don't think the SNC provenances are correct.  I read your post and was looking through old catalogues etc. seeing if I could find anything, and checked the 1985 and 1986 SNC's. The only coins that match the description (type 7, both priced at £850) are May 1985 no. 3086, pictured on p.140, and Oct. 1986 no. 6944, pictured on p.283. Neither of these are your coin (yours is nicer). Perhaps the seller simply meant these were other examples of the same dies? But the Spink 117 lot 359 provenance is correct (confirmed by picture), as is the 2016 one from Spink listed by Rob.

Not at all, I much appreciate the spade work! I don't have the SNCs in question, are you able to display the pics from them at all?

[Charles I York Halfcrown Provenance Sought]

6 hours ago, Rob said:

I don't have anything more at the moment other than to say that Lloyd bought it in Spink 240 on 26th Sept 2016 for £620 hammer. As for prior to 1985, I suggest you might be on a hiding to nothing. York halfcrowns are too common to be extensively illustrated in old catalogues and even in good grade tended to be made up in bulk lots of 2-4 coins of the type until the last 30-40 years. Occasionally you get lucky, but even in this grade it's not a given. The only civil war halfcrowns that were routinely imaged were the W/SA and Chester issues. These two are more hit, whereas the other provincial mints are more miss. Unfortunately Besly's article is too late to be of use as it was written around the time when your provenance starts, so it won't be pushed back using a die pair description.

It's a good coin and the same die pair as mine (2F) which is one of the scarcer combinations. I have 7 on the list including one with EBOR erased and one in the BM. Yours is an earlier strike than mine and possibly the best available. The flaw which develops below the horse's hoof through EBOR is barely a discolouration on yours. Whatever, for comparison see below.

Many thanks Rob

[Charles I York Halfcrown Provenance Sought]

I'm finalising due diligence on this piece, here's the provenance the seller has provided but would like to know more about such a striking coin ... hoping someone can help? @Rob?

The provenance so far is superb of course, I would like to go back further!

Provenance:

Spink Numismatic Circular 1985 (£850)
Spink Numismatic Circular 1986 (£850)
Spink Auction 117, 1996 £605 hammer 
ex Coins of Britain 2016
Ex Maurice Bull Collection

 

[Latest Charles I Tower Mint Halfcrown Acquisition]

Just landed - ticks plenty of boxes for me, including my first triangle mm example, my first 3a2 with rough groundline (S 2776), full weight (15.05g), and the Bull plate coin (383b/32)

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Just landed - ticks plenty of boxes for me, including my first triangle mm example, my first 3a2 with rough groundline (S 2776), full weight (15.05g), and the Bull plate coin (383b/32)

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Latest

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Latest acquisition - recut 3, or 3 over something? 5, as per Spink? The jury's out ...

 

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Blimey, well done, which one have you still to acquire? I have a few still to get, including the Workhouse one.

I've just upgraded my St Martin's Church example:

[Charles I Tower Mint Halfcrowns]

Just wondered if I could prick the interest of fellow Charles I halfcrown collectors, or ask for opinions

I have been concentrating on Tower Mint types this last year or so, here's a montage of my best so far. Some are Brooker and/or Bull plate coins.

 

 

[Charles I Halfcrown Type 3a1]

Another newbie, type 3a3, ex Bull

[New member TPG question]

Before the crisis, 2-4 months. No turnaround deadlines or commitments given. Varies partly due to London Coins Auctions activity.

[Charles I Halfcrown Type 2a]

Another newbie, apparently a rare die pairing and the illustrated coin for Bull 104a, bt SR Porter 1986

Rose over plume / rose, 14.98g

 

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7 hours ago, BritishHammeredCoins said:

Hi all,

Just thought I’d introduce myself I’m new on the forums got recommended by a friend PaulW, I’ve been browsing and lurking in the shadows and I thought I’d make a post.. 

I mainly collect Charles I tower mints but has interest in any Hammered coin don’t mind Irish and Scottish also..

I also run a Facebook group with close to 6000 members all buying selling and trading British coins.

ill try and do my bit to contribute the best I can but I am also still learning.

 

👍

Welcome! Let's see your best bits!

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2 minutes ago, Rob said:

Wrong description - not plume over shield and Adams was 2005, not 2008.

The obverse initial mark warranted a footnote in the Adams sale. TWW, who catalogued it, thought it might be tun over a vertical tun, but not tun over crown for either side. Bull catalogued it as Tun over Crown both sides. The complete absence of the cross normally seen on top of the crown does give rise to some reservations about this overmark.

Quite right re the plume, sorry Rob - I had copied the description from another coin and hadn't sufficiently edited it.

Re the overmark - yes it doesn't seem clear at all does it!

 

[Coin aquisition of the week.......]

I've been lucky enough to acquire 3 more Tower Mint halfcrowns from Maurice Bull's own collection.

Here's the first of them (dealer's pics)

Halfcrown Group III, type 3a1, plume over shield. mm tun (over crown) both sides (1636-38)

Reverse legend reads CHIRSTO AVSPICE REGNO

wt 14.52g

S. 2773 N. 2209 Brooker 336 (this coin) Bull 284b/23E (this coin)

Provenance:

Maurice Bull Collection 284b/32E

John G Brooker Collection 336

Colin Adams Collection Spink Auction 177, 1st December 2008, lot 108

Mark Rasmussen List 6, 2004, Coin No. 158

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Progressing my Charles I halfcrown type collection, just landed:

Group IV Type 4

S. 2779 N. 2214 Hawkins 4 Bull 436/30 (this coin) wt 15.03g

Provenance:

Ex Emyr George Collection, bt Spink Auction 84 21/05/1991

Illustrated as the plate coin in The Halfcrowns of Charles I 436/30, page 377, Volume II

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Bloody marvellous, many thanks!

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Just now, Diaconis said:

Lovely Provenance Paulus👍 Did you receive some nice tickets with it?

Thanks, only the dealer's ticket sadly!

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Just landed, my new Group III type 3b example. It has some nice provenance, including:

Ex Grant Francis collection, Glendinings 03/1920, Lot 138 (illustrated in G. Francis' paper 'Silver Coins of thee Tower Mint of Charles I, Chapter II, BNJ 1917)

Ex. R.C. Lockett Collection, Lendinings 17/10/1961, Part V (English), Lot 4477 'very fine, rare'

Ex Lord Rodney Smith of Marlow collection, purchase by Spink, 1969

Ex J.G. Brooker collection,  SCBI Brooker 324 (this coin)

[Coin aquisition of the week.......]

Just acquired my first George I crown (today's DNW auction)

[Charles I Halfcrown S. 2764 (?)]

Thanks both.

Here are my pics of it, I'll be leaving all the wax where it is

 

[Charles I Halfcrown S. 2764 (?)]

I've just acquired this (seller's pics) - I believe it to be S. 2764 1a2.

It has wax on the reverse, presumably for cataloguing purposes back in the day - can anyone identify it as an example that may have appeared in a book/catalogue?

Bit of a long shot perhaps, but thanks in advance!

 

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16 hours ago, will1976 said:

That's a lovely example 👍🏻 Uncirculated?

I would say so, yes