Coinery

I once had one of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321000179711?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 What's interesting, in light of this 2nd copy showing up, is that the cast coin was originally a plugged coin! I assumed initially that someone had contemporarily drilled my copy (thinking it to be a genuine coin to carry around the neck), and then a modern plug was added by someone, who also thought it to be genuine and worth plugging! Seems neither was the case! How odd to make a cast from a plugged coin, when there must have been better out there! I have emailed the seller. If there is no response, I shall pop the link into seuk's new list for 'the treatment'!

Just to say that the eBay, ex Comber, shilling has just gone over £200, which is more than I want to pay for a pitted and holed coin, Lis or not, especially when there are other lots upcoming! I’m personally happy that it’s the shilling from which the other coins were cast, if that’s an element that gives it a nice pirate value, and some added numismatic interest? I didn’t share it here at the time, but I later noticed plenty of red wax in the reverse legend, further adding, along with its weight and general sharpness, to its likely authenticity. Good luck if this interests anybody!

I don’t want to derail the thread here too much, but thanks for that, some good approaches…it would be impossible otherwise!

Quick question re this point. I ask because I’m compiling a catalogue of the Elizabeth I anchor shillings, and would ultimately want to put it out there! What do you do re gathering photos from the net, as it’s sometimes near impossible to track the source or get permission from the original photographer?

It’s superb irony, after just reading City have more than 100 alleged breaches of the same rules, that are still awaiting verdicts! There’ll be some squeaky shorts out there this winter, that’s for sure!

Spink’s description: “…lightly toned on a curiously light planchet, a pleasing very fine.”

This isn’t to say the spink coin is fake, it could again be the donor coin, though it too looks suspicious? The coin I had was fake, underweight, edge-seamed, and taken back by W&W at the time. There are green deposits on the Spink coin which could be copper deposits OR wax? I’m going to look over my browser history again, because I stumbled across an unusually high number of coins with same wax/copper deposits! Now, I just wonder??

No, not the same item, but identical flaws, double-strike, etc. etc.

Upcoming Spink sale!

Old counterfeit shilling of mine!

Superb, many thanks again, and great re the updated document I think you’d be right about the supply scenario…I believe Tim’s name comes up as provenance, presumably on the back of SH’s ticket?

Ahh, just bumped into a little issue with the attached document…it isn’t all of the entrants that have dates! Any thoughts on where Owen sits in the timeframe?

Thanks, Rob. I guess it doesn’t add very much to the coin, historically speaking, but it does at least say the coin’s been through a couple of hands who really should know better, if it’s a copy?

Many thanks, TG, much appreciated.

In connection with another post, what would you say the provenance and timescale of this one is? And, unless it was lost, Chris C. hadn’t prepared a ticket himself?

With just the one possibility that this could indeed be the original from which the others are cast?

Interestingly I noticed another of these ‘plugged’ coins in the Comber sale, though I can’t imagine CC overlooked it himself? I wonder if he made any note of it on the ticket, I know St James’ never mentioned it in the description. Anyhow, I’ve just noticed it’s made an appearance on eBay! For the record, I’ve bought from this seller before and have found him completely above board, a genuine misunderstanding I think! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/395020461031?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=UtuevqZVSY2&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=qduwzHkQTWC&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

I don’t understand why, if all you have said about the poor-performing auction house is true, that you can’t just say who they are? Libel only applies if you are publishing lies, surely?

Guy Fornquerne? Dear god is the blaggard French, the scoundrel…step forth and give account of yourself before I run you through with my bow of yew!

Interestingly the name Richard also popped up when I was subscribing?

I can barely believe it was that long ago I had to draw swords with an adversary! Wow, six years! I did fair take him in the joust and run him through with my sword! May the vanquished return so I might bid him well and wish him great merriment throughout this Christmas season! Compliments of the upcoming season to all!

Is that the same The Coinery from this forum?

Did it never cross your mind? Some people’s disposable annual income for numismatics exceeds my entire annual household income, gross! I marvel at it all…just wish I’d been a premiership footballer for a year!

Thanks, Rob…beyond the call… I can’t imagine that amount of material will ever be amassed again, I hope it all stays together now you’ve put the legwork into acquiring it all!

WOW!