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I'm really not sure he ever existed after this cock and bull "we chucked him in the sea before anyone else saw him, honest we did!" story.
They'll dream up another public enemy number one soon enough - they have to have one, after all.
There are pictures of his body and a video of his burial.
However he was not an active commander and he wasn't doing much - killing him just got AQ very pissed off.
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Get in the DeLorean if you want to sell this bloke anything, he's long gone.
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Certainly fishy, especially with both of them being 100% positive sellers with much feedback.
nriches rings a bell...
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Smack them with their Minelabs...
I reckon Darke should get 60% as he found the first few coins and so found the horde while Lewis just helped him out.
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I Looked on "fleabay" and didn't find any coin with that kind of error...
It looks like the I in the collar of the die got clogged up.
See:
These seem not too rare...
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On a side note, all the 1998 £2 coins in my wallet (all 3 of them) are off centre.
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Always have the option of special next day deivery available Is that where you come down for breakfast and your family bows down in worship?
More likely I'd be totally ignored, Peck ~ or an acknowledging grunt at best lol
(not that I'm at home anymore)When the postie gives it to you you get a wee kiss.
If it was that healthy looking slim postwoman with the blonde hair, that would be a very acceptable option !!!
Sadly it's that chubby bald bloke who sometimes "borrows" a few of the coins you get in the post.
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Nah... a brockage should have the reverse facing the right way in the mirror image (ie, the wrong way in hand)... if that make any sense, I'll eat my hat! They always say a piccy is worth a thousand words, so here goes!
Not brockages, but a couple of other oddities:
"the writing on the back is writen backwards.
" Gary said that the back was the wrong way around... so this means it doesn't rule out the brockage - or confirms it?
Your square 5p is interesting, my theory is that as they fed the srip of metal into cutting machine and cut it to the right size, then fed it into the stamping machine, it for some reason failed to stamp out the blank and it was struck in it's odd square state.
It's a miracle it got through quality control (or maybe it did and a sneaky mint worker took a bag of dodgy ones home instead of to the melting pot
)You guys can be really slow sometimes...The other side is seen in a mirror, mirrors alway show things in reverse hence the writing is reversed. Where's that shaking head sadly emoticon when you need it.
I didn't see the picture... and I was quoting you on the "written backwards" bit.
If you're referring to "a brockage should have the reverse facing the right way in the mirror image" he was referring to the terminology for the tails side of the coin.
Or am I being slow again?
No, you're not. What's the evidence for that even BEING a mirror? The front image (right way around) is casting a shadow on the surface of the "mirror" which it certainly couldn't if it was an actual mirror. It looks more like a lightbox to me, than a mirror, showing the coin design struck reversed.
The shadowing is confusing, I think they have 2 lights.
I think it's a shadow joining the other shadow in the mirror but you can tell by that little glimmer at the top of the coin and it's location revealing that it is a mirror.
But it's not a brockage, I can see that from the piccy.
Some coins which are two sides stuck together can have very well done edges.
Or it's just a bored mint worker.
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Nah... a brockage should have the reverse facing the right way in the mirror image (ie, the wrong way in hand)... if that make any sense, I'll eat my hat! They always say a piccy is worth a thousand words, so here goes!
Not brockages, but a couple of other oddities:
"the writing on the back is writen backwards.
" Gary said that the back was the wrong way around... so this means it doesn't rule out the brockage - or confirms it?
Your square 5p is interesting, my theory is that as they fed the srip of metal into cutting machine and cut it to the right size, then fed it into the stamping machine, it for some reason failed to stamp out the blank and it was struck in it's odd square state.
It's a miracle it got through quality control (or maybe it did and a sneaky mint worker took a bag of dodgy ones home instead of to the melting pot
)You guys can be really slow sometimes...The other side is seen in a mirror, mirrors alway show things in reverse hence the writing is reversed. Where's that shaking head sadly emoticon when you need it.
I didn't see the picture... and I was quoting you on the "written backwards" bit.
If you're referring to "a brockage should have the reverse facing the right way in the mirror image" he was referring to the terminology for the tails side of the coin.
Or am I being slow again?
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Nah... a brockage should have the reverse facing the right way in the mirror image (ie, the wrong way in hand)... if that make any sense, I'll eat my hat! They always say a piccy is worth a thousand words, so here goes!
Not brockages, but a couple of other oddities:
"the writing on the back is writen backwards.
" Gary said that the back was the wrong way around... so this means it doesn't rule out the brockage - or confirms it?
Your square 5p is interesting, my theory is that as they fed the srip of metal into cutting machine and cut it to the right size, then fed it into the stamping machine, it for some reason failed to stamp out the blank and it was struck in it's odd square state.
It's a miracle it got through quality control (or maybe it did and a sneaky mint worker took a bag of dodgy ones home instead of to the melting pot
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OK, I'm going to come out with one of my totally unromantic theories again.
1) They ran out of 3 punches;
2) They detailed the apprentice to cut a new one;
3) After a few thousand pennies had been run off, they decided it was rubbish;
4) They got a proper engraver to cut a new one;
5) They gave the apprentice a clip round the ear.
How does that sound?
Much closer to real life.
I reckon that to really determine the causes for these things one of us should do a bit of revision on the mint and it's history.
Where would you start, Sion ?
I'd lay odds that if the information could be unearthed, someone would have done it already ~ as with so many Royal Mint mysteries.
Well as I am from a family of historians I'd collect sources from previous mint workers (hard bit is tracking them down and then you can just chat over the phone, depends if you get an old grump or not)
Lots of information is not on the internet yet for things like mint details but I'm sure if one emailed the Mint enough about it's history eventually they'd help you out - after all that is their job.
You could also buy a few books on the mint and see if you can pick up any names from there, or any information.
Looking at existing information is always the first step.
I'll certainly admit that having a chat with a Royal Mint archivist, could be potentially very rewarding. Maybe one of us could approach them on behalf of the forum ?
Then go armed with a collection of highly relevant questions.
I'll do a quick bit of googling to find some books and some enquiry phone numbers and emails in case I/another member of this forum wishes to pursue this interesting information which can give us more of an insight into the Royal Mint and it's odd varieties.
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OK, I'm going to come out with one of my totally unromantic theories again.
1) They ran out of 3 punches;
2) They detailed the apprentice to cut a new one;
3) After a few thousand pennies had been run off, they decided it was rubbish;
4) They got a proper engraver to cut a new one;
5) They gave the apprentice a clip round the ear.
How does that sound?
Much closer to real life.
I reckon that to really determine the causes for these things one of us should do a bit of revision on the mint and it's history.
Where would you start, Sion ?
I'd lay odds that if the information could be unearthed, someone would have done it already ~ as with so many Royal Mint mysteries.
Well as I am from a family of historians I'd collect sources from previous mint workers (hard bit is tracking them down and then you can just chat over the phone, depends if you get an old grump or not)
Lots of information is not on the internet yet for things like mint details but I'm sure if one emailed the Mint enough about it's history eventually they'd help you out - after all that is their job.
You could also buy a few books on the mint and see if you can pick up any names from there, or any information.
Looking at existing information is always the first step.
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OK, I'm going to come out with one of my totally unromantic theories again.
1) They ran out of 3 punches;
2) They detailed the apprentice to cut a new one;
3) After a few thousand pennies had been run off, they decided it was rubbish;
4) They got a proper engraver to cut a new one;
5) They gave the apprentice a clip round the ear.
How does that sound?
Much closer to real life.
I reckon that to really determine the causes for these things one of us should do a bit of revision on the mint and it's history.
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I can never get over what some people do to coins. In my early restarted collecting days (1995), I was ferreting through a tin of old coins in a local antique dealers only to find to my delight a pratically uncirculated cartwheel tuppence. No edge knocks, no problems, except some idiot had drilled a fuc*ing great hole right through it - aaaaagh!!!
Why have so many coins from around that era, got bloody holes drilled through them ?
There must be a reason
Not only that, why are there so many with initials & such like stamped on them ?
Money too tight for real jewellery and engraved/holed has a personal touch.
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I'm just starting selling a few coins and was thinking about what the coin market wants, so I thought I'd start with some of the expert coin buyers/dealers here!
I think it will be quite educational.
What would you like eBay sellers to do in general that they don't at the moment?
Thanks, Sion
The main things would be 1) Decent photos with zoom facility 2) Always have the option of special next day deivery available.
Always have the option of special next day deivery available Is that where you come down for breakfast and your family bows down in worship?
When the postie gives it to you you get a wee kiss.
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I'm just starting selling a few coins and was thinking about what the coin market wants, so I thought I'd start with some of the expert coin buyers/dealers here!
I think it will be quite educational.
What would you like eBay sellers to do in general that they don't at the moment?
Thanks, Sion
The main things would be 1) Decent photos with zoom facility 2) Always have the option of special next day deivery available.
I agree with the decent photos bit but lots of the not serious eBay sellers don't have time to pop down to the post office esepcially if it is awkwardly located such as in a rural environment where only the most dedicated sellers can be arsed with a trip to a far away post office where the fuel to get there costs more than the stamp, especially these days with the higher postage rate.
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Heres my not even once in a lifetime opportunity to own a unique and rare and scarce and probably very scarce desirable special mule double headed two obverses extremely rare threepenny bit half a tanner very rare found in the attic of my great great grandmother who died many years ago but we only just cleaned out all her things but havent sorted them or had this valued and its from a pet free smoke free home so may be worth millions!!!
Now that's something I'd like in my collection, I do like the brass 3d. Obviously not two observes put together as the writing on the back is writen backwards.
Perhaps a rather good brockage? I don't know much about them...
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A MINT 1892 Penny my friends.....
Oh be fair that's only got a few bag marks...
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Pictures are a bit small, but the 2nd one is a gaming token, third might be a shilling, can you enlarge them to 150kb max and post again.
Yes, it looks like one of those fake spade guineas they used as gaming tokens.
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I've taken a little interest in odd coins... mint errors, brockages, wrong flans, non recurring varieties etc.
Post pictures and we can speculate on error causes.
Sion
Ok, my first item is a 1967 penny that 'clacks' when you drop it. I COULD put a picture up but it looks just like any old boring 1967 penny! Nice grade, mind you, EF with traces of lustre, must be worth all of ... ooh, what shall we say, 99p plus postage?
Could it be on a similar penny planchet but for another country?
Is it a forgery made of another metal? (As if anyone would forge a 1967 penny
) Does it have anything wrong with the edge?
It looks and feels exactly like any 1967 penny (definitely the right planchet, metal, etc). And you're quite right - who'd forge one of they? You'd only notice something wrong if you dropped it on a surface - instead of ringing, it clacks. The only I've not done is weigh it, but I don't have a set of they sensitive coin weigh thingies.
Will look like this
I think he'd have noticed that!
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It's amazing how they even get through Chris's rather good filters...
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i bought a bulk buy for a george IV halfpenny... it had a holed JH silver coin in.... it was an 1888 groat, thats a gap filler. cos those are scarce as.
However some coins can be holed at the time quite well, and not too rare ones either, so are quite wearable as a lucky pendant.
I've got a silver threepence...
Probably either a love token, home made jewellery as silver was expensive for a working person back then or a jeweller/engraver's apprentice's practice piece being the smallest silver denomination.
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I've taken a little interest in odd coins... mint errors, brockages, wrong flans, non recurring varieties etc.
Post pictures and we can speculate on error causes.
Sion
Ok, my first item is a 1967 penny that 'clacks' when you drop it. I COULD put a picture up but it looks just like any old boring 1967 penny! Nice grade, mind you, EF with traces of lustre, must be worth all of ... ooh, what shall we say, 99p plus postage?
Could it be on a similar penny planchet but for another country?
Is it a forgery made of another metal? (As if anyone would forge a 1967 penny
) Does it have anything wrong with the edge?
It looks and feels exactly like any 1967 penny (definitely the right planchet, metal, etc). And you're quite right - who'd forge one of they? You'd only notice something wrong if you dropped it on a surface - instead of ringing, it clacks. The only I've not done is weigh it, but I don't have a set of they sensitive coin weigh thingies.
I picked a little scales up off the net for £2 and a pound postage new, expecting nothing more than a rough estimate, but the beauty is accurate to 0.01 of a gram
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Ah! Time will tell I suppose.
Anyway, how did a thread about the Royal Mail turn into Bin Laden Conspiracy theories?