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I just sold a F-9 for $1300, in about the same shape. This one should bring slightly more, even with the scratches. (retail)

I was one of the underbidders. I lost out at $500. The last few seconds was a scramble! BB/TB... It went to the last day at $38.00.

I stopped by Michael's shop in Notting Hill (before he moved), to deliver a 1877 Narrow Date Penny I had sold to another collector from Great Britain (Cardiff, Wales). It was a real pleasure to meet him in person. My wife and I were touring Great Britain at the time. You have a beautiful country.

Michael, Is this 1911 a Gouby-X? It looks like the "I" in BRITT is pointing to the tooth!

I will try to re-photograph, with a fixed camera position, so you can definitely see each dot position with reference to the toothed ring. The only real problem is the reflection that the slab presents, but I will give it a try.

They appear somewhat that way in the photo, but they are at the same location.

Zo, I am guessing the dot might have been drilled into the die to coverup a defect that had appeared in the die field, due to use of the die. How the hole started to crack is above my paygrade, and I am at a loss to identify why. I thought the two different coins are quite unusual though.

Here is the 1946 "Dot" . It is graded F-20 by CGS 2nd photo is the 1946 "apostrophe", which has the Dot with a crack extended from the top to the bottom. It is graded AU55BN ny NGC. Both pics were very hard to take due to the coins being slabbed. Both coins are for sale, if anyone is interested. Regards. Bob

Do any of the other dot varieties have an adjacent die crack? The 1909 N dot, 1875 cannonball, 1946 dot dash? I have two 1946 Dot Pennies. One has a perfectly round Dot, and the other has a round Dot, with a slight crack showing at the top and bottom of the Dot.

Oz, That is definitely a nice coin, but is difficult to grade because of the surface tarnish. It needs a quick "dip" to clean it up a little bit. The lions heads on the reverse are very good, but where the Crown sets on the shield, there is definite wear. The obverse head also looks like it has wear. Still it is a nice coin...though not a ms-62...so I agree with you on that.

Here is a nice one I sold to the guy in Cardiff, about 10 years ago!

I don't know who won it, but if I was a betting man, I would think it went to Cardiff, to the guy who has the other three (3)!

I have a lady friend who starts every sentence with "Well anyway", and it drives me crazy. I have mentioned it to her, but she continues.........

Beautiful example Oz! Cleaned or not!

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The coin has a pale sheen, common to coins that have been cleaned, however without the mild "friction" lines common with harsh manual cleaning, leads me to believe it was dipped in a chemical solution......

I would say EF...but it appears to have been dipped.

Yes!

Peck, you are right about the Spink listing, it just says Die Flaw, and doesn't mention if it is a apostrophe, or Dot. I must have been looking at the Half Penny, when I mentioned that it wasn't listed. I think I am getting Dot and Apostrophe syndrome! LOL...

The two varieties are completely different, and they are in different locations, though the coin I have with the apostrophe does have a small "dot" in the center of the apostrophe, as stated in the Freeman note #36, on page 75. But the apostrophe with the small dot in the middle is in a different location, than the coin with only the "Dot." This has been a interesting conversation. BTW...I saw no reference to either type for the 1946 in Spink (2013 edition).

I don't believe this myself...the 1946 "Dot" is listed in at least one printed reference, "The Collector's Coins of Great Britain", by Chris Perkins. I guess that makes it official!

Thanks Upinsmoke! That is my coin. It has all the same marks in the same places and everything. They must have some bright lamps to make the coin look that bright though. Thanks for the pic's.

This is the best I can do through the slab.

I agree Rob, CGS is a limited service, since they charge you ($99 pound) annual fee to even look at their grading charts. That is crazy...do they actually get someone to pay the charge? I know their slabs are sold at a reduced premium outside of the UK. Heritage won't sell a CGS slabbed coin. If you want to sell with them you have to break the coin out of the CGS slab and sell it as a raw coin, or get it re-slabbed by NGC, PCGS, etc. I bought the 1946 "Dot" coin from a London dealer, and it was already slabbed by CGS.

You guys are going to love this! The "Dot" variety is a published variety by CGS, it is a 1946 Raised Dot, CGS Variety 03. ...