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The only coin that has really exploded is the New gold 2oz Una and the Lion great designers release, these have been going for silly money, £27k for a release 2 months previously that cost £4k, I don’t know where people’s heads are at right now with this modern stuff

Saw 2 listings for the gold one on eBay on Sunday night, they weren’t even available till Monday morning, Londoncoins was one of those, asking £7500 for it, Monday they had changed the listing and dropped the price to £6000, that’s how shit it was and the state of the modern market asking for £2000 profit

I’ve been for a beer with Rob and also met NRP at the Munich coin fair several times.

Not a worst offering, more your worst nightmare https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7930931/Balaclava-clad-thugs-beat-rob-couple-travelled-190-miles-buy-Mercedes-Ebay.html

I think you have to register for each auction you are going to participate in. I have the app and have used it, but each auction requires you to register, not you whole details but your intention to bid. I registered for this in Dec, but what you have to realise, registering 2hrs before the auction starts in NY and on a Sunday and it's going to get complicated straight off the bat.

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Its not only the Kew

Fast forward 159 years and quality control is still not on their priority list 🥳

200 million more Americans than Brits and of those which are serious collectors, most will be millionaires, so they have the cash to splash

Speaking of accuracy and TPGs, these next 2 coins come from a well known dealer, both have technical grades yet both are ex mounts, I just wonder if these bigger dealers get some sort of preferential treatment, the mount marks are quite clearly visible but yet no details grades for being ex mounts. The mounts that holds the coin in place in the holder actually cover the fact these were ex mounts, only in the true view of PCGS are these visible

Just did a little editing of the above photo on googles pixlr. I took the original at about 7:45am this morning and it was getting light

Got a new camera, has a few bells and whistles on it, but it's no point and shoot and was getting pretty frustrated with the results that have been produced so far, until this morning. Youtube guides are quite helpful, but if you buy a bridge camera I suggest a little photography course if you have the time.

list a coin from a well know collection, add half a grade here and there and then double the purchase price and wait for someone to grab the bait

I would assume you mean me as I started the post, I guess you need to read the whole content and in particularly the part where I said "I don't mind dealers making money" You also take my concerns for the hobby as some sort of attack, it's not, its opening eyes for those who might not be in tune with what I see and what others might not, so please keep the bullshit bitter and twisted talk to yourself, where does twisted even come from? What is twisted about me pointing out certain facts? Twisted in the fact that dealers are milking some people and it should be highlighted? You obviously feel some people should have their cash taken from them, pretty piss poor from you Colin I also offered one dealer on here a hammered Noble, Bristol mint, he offered a derisory £2500 said it was bent, to be fair it was but lightly, but the price was still 1k less than I paid, needless to say I sold through Baldwins for £5600

Personally I don't think being a dealer should be an excuse for doubling a coin' price, it's their choice of occupation or they have too much money. As I pointed out in another post, retailers also have costs yet can cut their prices in sales and still don't make the same profits on one item sold

Which has been my point, all I see now is some dealers (I'm not painting them all with the same brush) but what I'm seeing is basically dealers just doubling the price they've paid in auction and that is their retail price, but what I keep asking is why they think the coin is worth 100% of what they've paid because we don't need to hear that they are holding stock to justify some of their prices, even high street shops offer sales on unsold stock, ok, there is the odd bargain that can be found and even an extreme rarity in the case of VS. I guess some people just have too much money to throw away or simply just don't do research, or these dealers just believe that collectors are gullible enough that they'll trust them and their extortionate prices.....

I’d agree entirely with that last sentence, my YouTube friend Numistacker certainly pumps all things Sovereign from the RM and never fails to mention that coin X is getting higher prices in a slabbed holder than raw, yet he always fails to describe the total costs involved with said grading. Just to put it into perspective, a friend of mine who buys the silver proof 50p that the royal mint churn out wanted the latest one graded, I hate doing it as I know it’s not worth the cost involved, the total fee for that was €36 plus his cost to send to me (I’ll take it back to him) but if it was an agent such as Numistacker then there is the return postage fee plus cost of the coin which was £65, so add all that up including eBay and PP fees if it was sold on, I concluded that the coin Numistacker was rambling on about in one of his videos (a 2018 snowman sold for £130) it came to a £5.55 loss.

I doubt it’s in a catalogue, probably a shop sale, but I could be wrong

The other thing I could point out is that we have a section on the forum called “eBay laughs” where we post about sellers there and their grading, so are we saying that for dealers it’s an exception to the rule?

That’s because if they overgrade they can increase the price. Grading back in the day was consistent.

Which again brings me back to my point, overgrading for more money. Yes of course no one has to buy, but its the consistency of dealers to overgrade which in turn could burn newbies. Lets be clear, I'm not against dealers making money (and to be honest, dealers shouldn't have a monopoly or think they have a monopoly of making a profit), I'm talking about integrity that's slowly being killed off for profits

Can it be subjective if the coin has/had been graded consistently as AEF since 1943?

It begs the question if modern grading has gone downhill from the previous 50 years, how and when did it change, sooner or later will our VF grading become UNC?, it seems its getting watered down, so why were the gradings of the last 50-60 years so wrong? I wonder what the Baldwins grade was in 1943 for this guinea was