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  1. VickySilver

    1860 YH Penny

    Is this the famous ebay debate coin? I love this date and looks nice!
  2. VickySilver

    Ebay's Worst Offerings

    I am going to predict it goes for 1200 pounds anyway. Well, count me out at that price but I would say a good price at 1k. Legitimate in hand would probably be more like 1500, but could be wrong as I find I am having trouble finding the pulse in this market.
  3. Well, I for one also love these somewhat unloved "VIP" proofs, and have noted that there are also as has been said prooflike specimens extant. Sometimes this can be confusing even to more expert eyes. This is also confused by the fact that there are coins that are definately coins that appear to have been prepared specially and yet not proof although I have seen a bit more of this from the George VI era (1943-1951). From the photos, the obverse appears to have suffered from friction, possibly from cabinet contacts or cleaning. Better quality pictures might be more helpful. As a postscript, there was an interesting discussion of ordinary currency vs. prooflike/specimen vs. proof in the Bowers and Merena Norweb Sale of Canadian from about 1997-1999 era. No definitive answers in there but some interesting points brought up.
  4. And probably the weight being crucial as well. I am out at the moment and so do not have the figure for the correct weight available for now. I have a 1971 10p that is unc. also with only the reverse and it is appropriate weight so these do exist. If it is correct weight, it is possible it was stuck in the strike chamber with another flan and only struck up on the one side. There was a lot of two pennies from the early '60s that was in the Colin Adams' Sale that demonstrated this as well...
  5. Should be interesting, I would hate to even be thinking about going for that 1864 copper! I think this will be one of the "Chinese water torture" auctions that have the potential to be interminable. Good for the seller and the buyer has plenty of time to get his or her coin. It will be interesting to see how these auctions turn out as there may some battles over some of these bits with many collectors (including me) of coins in the penny and farthing series.
  6. I wonder if anybody else has either seen or heard of any others. I curently have (NOT FOR SALE) a 1981 New Pence struck over a 1953 sixpence with underdate type and date readable. Coin is gem unc. by US standards, but would likely be by UK standards as well in a PCGS65 tomb/plastic. It may have been oriented on the die on purpose, versus chance alignment because it would have been hard to show the earlier date under the overstrike. Out of curiosity, what do you think it might be worth? Sorry about not being able to show a picture, one day I will figure it out.
  7. Yes, I will try to find a way to get a picture up. I assure you the coin is genuine, and not because (actually NGC) the TPG says so. The undertype is clear, the coin is quite a nice example and the gem classification not unreasonably applied. So, not just on OMS (off metal strike) but clearly struck on the earlier bit. I have been asked to evaluate such esoterica before and difficult to evaluate; in a sense it does not matter as it is not up for sale but then again we tend to have such prurient interests...
  8. Probably will not give the error one above to him for those purposes. Chris, what do you think such a coin might be worth; usually I have a pretty good idea, but it is apparently a one-off and suppose the price would be then dependent on what two (or more) bidders might take it to???
  9. VickySilver

    Cleaning Coins

    I think in the US, the cotton buds are referred to as Q-tips and some can be quite hard so be careful with friction on these. Presoaking the tip gets them a bit softer but if you've the inclination to rub out that persistant spot, you'd best not. Some spots are just going to be resistant to all but the most aggressive agents but then they leave their mark.
  10. The thing that is interesting is that the 6d date shows up perfectly in the gap in the legend on the overstruck 1 pence. I actually bought it about 4 or 5 years ago from a smaller auction, can't remember at the moment. Rather a sore thumb in a hopper full of copper blanks as it is of course coppernickel with excellent lustre.
  11. VickySilver

    Cleaning Coins

    Well, what about cases where there is just residual dirt adhering to the surface - would you not clean with mild soap and water at least? I too have a bit of experience and can tell you that copper must be approached with temerity, although mild treatments can be tried. I suggest if you have the time or inclination that you experiment with bits of lesser to no value to see how metal reacts in certain circumstances. A few "pearls": no abrasives no copper magic or other acid dips acetone which is pure should be safe tamping, as opposed to rubbing surface with clean white cotton towel is good way for removal of excess solvent always wash thoroughly with water and then tamp down as the water itself may have harmful electolytes Well, more if you ask.
  12. VickySilver

    Learning gold ..the hard way

    Half sov is 4.00 gm of 22k (which is 0.916). If math is right that is 3.664 net gm. versus the 4.16 x 0.900, or 3.74 gm. pure gold....
  13. I did see one some years ago that came up in a Spink Numismatic Circular List that was probably "undergraded" at GEF and subsequently got back a PCGS 65RB and is in their census (or at least was). That coin had beautiful unbroken silky lustre, strike and surfaces that may have surpassed the numerical grade - I believe such a coin would be worthy of a bidding war if it were to come up at major auction.
  14. No doubt a simple error to them, not to us. I think they do not take British coins seriously. These people sell coins for into the 100s of thousands in USD, so a measly 800 pound coin means little to them unfortunately. As an aside, I wonder what a truly nice ME would bring (in numericals, a CGS 85 or PCGS 65)?
  15. Those copper "oxide" states reflect levels of ionization and would reflect generically the state of the copper and not the specific salt such as chloride, sulfide, etc. It is the right general idea, however it is the oxidizing substance that determines the appearance of the surface of the coin with the chloride and chloride compounds giving the familiar green and usually the sulfides that give the "rainbow toning". The anion is not usually oxygen. I do not pretend to be an expert but the reactions can actually be quite complex and many times more than one type going on with respect to the surface of any one coin.
  16. Some have postulated (and I agree) that the problem with fingerprints is not the oil or electrolytes in the sweat directly, but rather the action of bacteria on the oil that generates acidic metabolites that selectively oxidize the contact points from the print.
  17. You can find Vickie coppers and Edward VII as well...
  18. I agree with the bit about having fresh designs, but the logic of reissues being fresh eludes me. Also, probably not too many of these collector specials will be reaching the man in the street (or woman either!).
  19. I believe the current thought is that this is due to alloy mixture and the variable oxidation rates of it. When it is a bit uneven there often may occur the so-called "woodgrain" effect.
  20. Yes, rare is rare. Evidently these were made for 6d, 1/- (English, not sure about Scotish), 2/-, 2/6. Some years ago I got the shilling in an European auction but not seen the others - they are in ESC which I do not have with me as I am away from home for a week or so more. ESC quoted R6 for the shilling.
  21. Yes, I concur and was getting ready to say that much depends on the original strike as well as some specimes are struck with the rim "finning" and may appear a bit thicker but that is rather a corollary to what has just been posted. Also, neither date would be a target for a counterfeiter as they are not rare and would not be much profit in faking such a small denomination even in the 1940s. I was beginning to get excited right as you first were describing these coins as I was hoping you had found one of the pattern 1946 6ds in cupro-nickel, and that would have been a special rarity....
  22. VickySilver

    1932 Penny

    Well, we are not yet on the log value scale where one man's uncirculated is not quite someone else's and a point or two on the Sheldon (or CGS) scale double or trebles the value - generally ridiculous in my opinion. Still a nice 1932 with plenty of red and the newly reduced George's head with good strike detail and lustrous fields is more attractive than a drab brown coin with a lot of bagmarks, so a bit of a dilemma here. A 1932 or perhaps a 1934 fitting the former description might be a 65-80 pound item in my book, but not 200, at least yet. Well that is my vote. BTW, I had thought the 1934 issue was mint darkened but have an example tha seems to have a lot of golden red to it that does not look cleaned or darkened & not to pirate this thread but does anybody else have similar experience?
  23. Price on the 1871 is pretty good up through another 50% higher at least and decent for grade with only a few expected contact marks for grade. Wow! I like the 1875H and would go for it at that price if I did not already have one just a bit better. Of course the usual disclaimer that it should be seen in hand but looks great even in supersize. I think it would be quite decent at 100-150 pounds higher. The 1864 is almost there but some rather distracting edge damage. I imagine he has accounted for that in price by giving it a good 40-50% price hit. In case you didn't get it: I LIKE THE 1875H!!!!
  24. This proliferation of issues and reissues is quite over the top in my opinion. I remeber rather liking the gold Britannias as they got started and even got a one and a half ounce (which I wear on a chain to this day). But then they kept dumping unc. and proof bullion pieces in all the fractionals each and every year for twenty years, and I have just left them alone. Ditto the silver Britannias. Now each of the denominations is issued and reissued in all different metal compositions and feature increasingly inane commemorations, and I get the feeling that the Royal Mint is emulating the private mints with their "coins" struck for Liberia, Fanning Island, etc. They seem to be killing the goose that laid the golden egg, and - I really don't care if there are arteficial rarities being created, and god bless the buyers of such.
  25. VickySilver

    Interesting e mail from the cgs

    Well, CGS hardly has a universal grading system and it has a different numbering system from the others to boot (1-100 versus 1-70) so I think it would be a mistake to dump the descriptive designation. PCGS and NGC have very successfully used designations such as EF45 and I think the two spaces taken by letters are worthwhile - these have now been used for 23 years.As has been stated above, numbering systems are not for everybody and a bit of redundancy would still appeal to a much wider audience. BTW, and as an aside, I am not at all sure that CGS is more conservative. I have a Specimen 1935 in CGS85 that is definately not up to the same type coin that I have in NGC65. Maybe I will be able to go hi-tech and eventually figure out how to get some pictures...