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Bronze & Copper Collector

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  1. 1 hour ago, jelida said:

    I wasn’t sure where to post this Ebay offering, there are so many choices! Unknown grading company, “Tudor Coingrading Company” being sold by Ebay seller “Tudor Coins”, coin in slab is the wrong date for the label and is allegedly AU58 when it appears to be less than VF with issues. And the text suggests it is ANACS MS60.

    What on earth is going on here? At what point does this behaviour become criminal? Newcomers risk being massively discouraged from numismatics by this sort of behaviour.

    Jerry

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/366523800496?_skw=penny&itmmeta=01KWS90R0MAB465J91RGTC7ZZP&hash=item5556855bb0:g:fIoAAeSwQc1qSmCR&itmprp=enc%3AAQALAAAA4GfYFPkwiKCW4ZNSs2u11xBLz4j3XZU8mu0Cbb350VpikZtwzj2aSPlSW6rXS%2FSfOsy%2BT4Ap8HEAjjQPj2k2UzKpJPM8aWVDGH2ye9B%2BllFbJY%2FOIjKs%2BhMROYbbwpmrVo2%2Fc7TxtZ0O19hf9q%2FRmtSvgwwyHs%2BQUeGWm%2FMNSsaU8oBzY%2BIKGudScPNku484P%2FvgfOqq2A6PRVapzoCzOCan8QTkUiKwDLWemfpSHUo52xJJfB50mxvDPXO7POvj%2BELG0GR2dz%2B71gTZ5p1NvYwwidD71Iyv6g8aTZVZpBME|tkp%3ABk9SR_iAg6nmZw

    Got the date wrong too.

    It's an 1862

  2. On 6/2/2026 at 4:29 PM, King Kenny said:

     

    It suddenly occurred to me the other day I had put a bid in for a nice looking penny on eBay. I had to put the bid in early as I had a long drive when it was due to mature. By the time I got home the auction was over. Now here is my conundrum. I could check with the web site to see if I had been successful or not. But if I did I might have failed in my bid and had lost the coin. However, if I don’t check it out I could still hold the winning bid, but I won’t know until I looked at the listing. Therefor, I might have won that coin, or not, until I find out one way or the other. I( I have lost the bid then I would be disappointed, so am I in a better position by not looking? Unless I have won it.

    The true conundrum is whether or not it is the coin/variety that you are expecting. If you've been unsuccessful in your bidding, then it might have been or might not have been.

    If successful, then you won't know until you open the packet with the coin. If you don't open the packet then it might or might not be what is expected. 

    What to do?????

    Final advice: "What, me worry."

     

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  3. Good luck,

    Some members might remember the fiasco of PCGS misattributing an uncirculated 1860 Mule farthing. 

    PCGS would not admit that the slightly separated teeth, a known issue and mentioned in catalogs and guidebooks, were not round beads. They covered themselves by identifying it as a new variety, midway between teeth and beads.

    It will be interesting to see what their response is. Probably just call it a clerical labeling error.

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  4. On 2/18/2026 at 11:10 AM, alfnail said:

    Just back from holiday.

    Whilst away, on 26th January, I bought a lot of 25 low grade Victorian pennies.

    One coin amongst them was the very rare 1889 with the 9 high right in the exergue.

    After 2 to 3 days I enquired of the seller when he intended to post the lot, as he was supposed to have sent tracked, but no details yet on ebay. After a couple more days, and further chasing, he advised that he had sent them, but not tracked. Anyway, a package was received by my neighbour on 3rd February, so I thought that was ok after all.

    I returned home today, and opened the package to find that the 1889 was not as I expected. The return window has also closed earlier today!  

    I just wanted to check with other members that you agree with me that the received 1889 is not what I bought. The picture on the sale was not great, but I still think that the differences are clear enough. Apart form the different numeral 9 location, I believe there are several other obvious differences. For example, around Britannia's head the received coin has a more pointed top to the plume, a dent in the head and a dark mark on border. 

    I feel fairly confident that the delay must have been because someone else has alerted the seller as to the rarity of this variety, and he has swapped it with a different 1889. However, bearing in mind the poor quality of the image, I would welcome the thoughts of other members before I complain.

       

    1889 combined with highlights1.jpg

    Definitely two different coins, a slightly higher 9, but not from what I see the wide date with the high 9

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  5. 11 minutes ago, Martinminerva said:

    Not quite all, though... Eg. the mule 1860 halfpenny listed above as 260A does not appear in the 1986 or subsequent editions, instead there the one given 260A is the missing knot 1*+A, but non-mule, and 260B its proof. Wonder why he never mentioned again such a mule piece? I believe a few are now known?

    It was the basis of the updates, subject to his future decisions.

    He later removed the milled penny (that I recently sold) from the catalog after receiving an assessment from the Royal Mint that it was a post mint alteration.

    Just as his 1970 edition was an extension of his several updated versions of his penny studies expanded to include half pennies, farthings,  patterns, trials, etc.

    There are ALWAYS corrections,  updates, modifications, etc to a work of this magnitude. 

    There have been many new discoveries to add to Peck, Braman, Freeman, etc. No guide/catalog is a final authority, it merely contains information known at the time.

    They grow, mature, learn, make adjustments and corrections, expand as a living being.

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  6. 3 hours ago, secret santa said:

    Yesterday, Noonan's sold an F13 penny with repaired E's. It was also the "short sea" variety described on Page 14 of John Jerrams' booklet on Bun Pennies. The mutliple repairs to letters and the linear circle are distinctive of this variety.

    I have one listed on ebay at the moment.

    The same short sea/rock formation, repaired E's, die cracks.

    Ebay item#:  326743200377

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  7. I just listed this coin on ebay and was looking for some thoughts on it.

    The E in ONE has protrusions from the left side of the upright.  At times it looks like it might have been punched with the E upside down,  and then corrected.

    Anyone have any thoughts or ideas???

    Thanks,

    Gary

     

    Screenshot_20250814_125434_eBay.jpg

    Screenshot_20250814_125440_eBay.jpg

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