Sylvester
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I've long said that Ebay's rubbish for hammered coins.
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So that's what Rabbitese sounds like. Stanley Unwin lives!
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What the guy that lived in the big house with the golden chandilibres balanced over the curleywurly stail all the way upto the ceiley?
Matriblo interpre?
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Now that's what i call a Maundy set!
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It's even worse if you bring scrabble, tiddly winks and dice in on it as well.
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I love those Long-Cross pennies!
Edward I 'New Coinage' (1279-c.1335) being my favourite. Florin coinage and after they start getting stupidly small.
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Not bad condition at all actually, a little water worn perhaps and a bit ragged but it has been buried so that's not unexpected with these, put it this way there's alot worse out there, some are found folded in half or in quarters and need to be straightened out (hence why some on the market are described as 'creased', i.e because they've been unfolded)
Now i don't have my reference books with me, but a coin of this nature could fetch anything from say £600-£1000 or more depending upon 1) if it's real, 2) what type or class the coin is from. Rarer classes obviously command more. Edward III though is a rather complex series with many types.
Half nobles are particularly scare though and tend to trade at prices closer to full nobles. If i were you i'd get it taken to a coin dealer and get their appraisal of it, it's one of those things you really have to see in the flesh and examine in hand to get an clue of it's authenticity or it's class/type.
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If it's a real one then yeah it's worth something alright.
If you can get better pictures so i can read the writing then i'll try and attribute it for you. What diameter is it? (Looks half nobley to me, but clipped nobles can look like that too).
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Looks a bit like that one Lawrence Chard had.
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I have a passing fondness for farthings also, it's a size thing.
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American Dimes, Quarter Dollars, Half Dollars and Dollars issued upto and including 1964 are 90% silver. Coinage issued thereafter is what is known as 'Clad', basically copper and nickel layers bonded together in sheets, cut into coin blanks and then struck. They contain no silver at all. Except for the half dollars issued from 1965-1971 which were struck in copper/silver bonded layers, these contain 40% silver, after 1971 the silver was replaced by nickel.
UK coinage, tiny silver threepences upto crowns issued up until 1919 were 92.5% silver, from 1920-1946 they were 50% silver, 1947 onwards they are a copper and nickel alloy. Most stuff issued after 1937 is pretty worthless unless in brand new condition (if it looks like a 2005 or 2006 penny from change then they might be worth anything upto £5 or £10 if you're lucky).
If they're worn then there not worth a great deal monitarily, although they might be good to hang onto for sentimental value.
There's not alot of money in post-1800 British coinage (unless they are in very high grade of preservation with no wear, no scratches and most importantly uncleaned).
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Ahhh the old zero feedback routine.I know that we all had to start somewhere,but having had timewasters and scammers with zero feedback,I'm more than a little wary now when selling.I smell a rather large decaying rat here......
Shill bidding.
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Very well written description isn't it.
Uniquely presented i'd say.
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That's a new one on me i have to say!
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My copy of Spink says the pheon (arrowhead) mark was in use between 1561 and 1565 which agrees with the date on the coin.
It is however worth remembering that the mint, or more correctly 'privy' mark was primarily a means of identifying a run of coins for the purposes of quality control through something called the 'trials of the pyx' rather than a means of dating.
If the Pyx was delayed for any reason there was therefore the potential for the date of the coin to be out of synch with the given mark. Since I am not an Elizabethan sixpence/threepence/threehalfpence/threefarthing (ie those denominations with dates on them) enthusiast I can't tell you if this actually happened.
Sylvester - do you have any information about this?
It's not my area either so i can't add upon what you've already said. If it had been a few centuries earlier then i could have been of assistance.
The likely reason for the date being out of synch with the mintmark is either the use of the Julian calendar (as you have pointed out), or a new variety.
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Oh she's blonde...
On second thoughts you can have her.
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That's a squirrel.
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Same here i don't have the Russian alphabet installed either.
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You know Chris i thought i'd seen them all but Siberian Girls? Amazing. I've come to the conclusion that no matter how weird something sounds there'll be a page out there on the internet for it somewhere.
Although thankfully the advertisements to most of those weird sites should decline considerable now, it is hoped! I heartily welcome the new anti-spam measures.
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Yep there was half a page devoted to it in the Telegraph the other week. Not to mention the Metro (ah the Metro, *cue to angelic singing*).
I didn't keep either article though. Don't ask why not because i don't know.
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There's alot of rare pennies out there not to mention the Henry III Gold penny... (which being a 20 pence coin is not exactly a real penny, but then again the Coenwulf penny isn't exactly a penny either, as i believe that's also a 20 pence coin).
1933 and Edward VIII 1937 might be the high budget ones, but don't forget the 1954 penny.
Although if you want expensive and rare try Howel Da (or however you spell that) which is unique. As are alot of the uncommon Anglo-Saxon types, there must be a list full of Eadgar 'fancy' pennies that notch up alot of £££.
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That might change though Wybrit with all these fake slabs coming in from China recently.
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Initial impression, hmm hard to tell.
I'm tempted to say that's a fake though, i can't give any certainty on that. Firstly due to how the coin is photographed/scanned it can make the coin look greyer than it is.
What reassures me a little is that the seller hasn't hyped it "L@@k incredibly rare, the key date of all key dates..." and all that nonsense, infact the seller has really just not done anything to draw attention to the fact that it's an extremely rare coin, infact all he has done is put 'rare', in lower case rather matter of factly. Which makes me think what Gary thinks, this guy thought it was genuine and is trying to dispose of it.
The other thing that makes me think it's a dud is that it looks a little... well lacking something.
The fields look fairly clean, too clean in fact. A coin of that grade should have a little scuffing on the obverse fields, yet the fields look pretty good considering those two edge knocks and the digs in Edward's face.
Looks a bit leady too, the ear, the ear just gets me.
I can't point out anything in particular that screams *fake*, but something doesn't quite add up with it. I think the fact that it looks so clean and fairly new might have something to do with it.
But then again that could all be explained with the fact that the coin might have had a good polish at some point in the past.
I'd let it go myself, i doubt it's genuine. But i can't point to anything in particular and say, "it's fake because of XYZ"
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All collections get split in the end JMD it's one of those things. It's good news for farthing collectors with money though. Bad news for farthing researchers though.
I'll have to keep an eye on the tin offerings.
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Ah but you don't come across much quality Anglo-Saxon or Norman stuff on Ebay. Ed Confess & Æth Unready excluded of course.