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Peckris 2

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  1. 6 hours ago, Martinminerva said:

    Not at all... Genuine 1927 florins are proof only, barely 15,000 struck and typically change hands for £120 - £150 and are sought after.  A Chinese poor quality copy (which this is just one of many, many examples peddled on ebay, Alibaba etc) can be got for maybe a fiver, so a disingenuous soul can easily make a huge profit...

     

    See above! 

    I still think it's odd - there are many low mintage proofs in the 20th Century. Repros are usually of extremely rare coins, or are obvious bad copies of particular types (though not often of 20th Century coins unless extremely rare such as 1933 or 1954 pennies).

  2. 42 minutes ago, Coys55 said:

    Isn't it a case of "that's neither superb nor a proof" rather than a repro?

    It's possibly more difficult to tell when the attached picture is of an entire webpage rather than a screenshot of just the coin, but it simply just doesn't look right. It looks wrong in exactly the same way as a Victorian YH repro looks wrong. So my money's on a repro unless we can see the coin isolated from the webpage.

  3. On 5/28/2026 at 5:26 PM, Martinminerva said:

    Hi Richard.

    I saw it at the time and was considering putting a bid in but concluded it was a doctored specimen: the 6 on the LCA specimen is surrounded by lighter coloured metal consistent with it having been transplanted from another coin onto an original 1927 coin. 

    Quite apart from that, it would have to be a different die too as on your ex-Freeman one, the 6 is over a gap between teeth and rotated slightly clockwise, whereas on the LCA one, the 6 is bolt upright and over a tooth. I can't believe two trial dies were produced striking one coin each! 

    Happy to be proved wrong if anyone here did buy it and microscopy eliminates my suspicions...

     

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    Unbelievably I missed seeing these posts. I think you've made a very valid point. The two 6's are indeed different, and there is absolutely no reason why they'd have two virtually identical experimental dies each with a different 6 stamped on, just to strike a few coins. 

    The other suspicion - though it might sound rather trivial and inconclusive - is the colour difference; 1926 pennies are usually darker than 1927 onwards which usually have a paler more orangey hue. But as I say, that's not really conclusive unless someone has a record of an alloy change made in 1927.

  4. 10 hours ago, Avocet said:

    There's something I find curious about the market for the new 1927 coins. Tony Clayton's site lists the threepence at £140, sixpence £75, florin £170, and half crown £120. Ebay asking prices tend to be a bit higher but from my observation tend to follow a similar pattern.

    I don't see any compelling reason why they shouldn't all fetch roughly the same. Possibly some date-run collectors might be satisfied with a old-style sixpence and half crown and not see the need to include the new version?

    The 'compelling reason' is whether there's a currency version of the proof coin (e.g. the shilling) or whether the 1927 exists only as a proof, e.g. the threepence.

  5. 4 hours ago, secret santa said:

    Exciting news !

    Terry Eagleton has just pointed out to me that a 1926 penny was sold at London Coin auction in 2025 described as a F195 Modified Effigy but is, in fact, only the second ever "recorded" instance of the rare Gouby D+d Mule, i.e a coin with the Modified Effigy obverse but the true 1927 reverse. Obviously it was not recorded by LCA, but it is indeed the second known example. The first example was discovered by Michael Freeman and bought by me.

    If anyone on the Forum bought this coin. I would love to know more.

    Auction 190, lot 2174.

    Wow. I've seen the "original" (which you have?) and have always assumed - correctly or not - that it's a proof or pattern created to test the actual true non-mule type that would be seen in 1927. By the way, D+d cannot be a mule, unlike the actual 1926ME - it's what the 26ME WOULD have been if they hadn't been in such a hurry to 1) get the small supply of 1926 pennies where they were unexpectedly needed, and 2) were fully resourced supervising the changeover to the Modified Effigy for all denominations, plus preparing the new reverses for 1927.

  6. On 5/16/2026 at 5:42 PM, Paddy said:

    I now have the coin in my possession. Seems pretty nice condition for one of these, despite the odd mark in front of the King's nose:

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    Sorry to burst your bubble Paddy, but I'm almost certain from the pictures that it's NOT a recessed ear.

  7. The light striations in the obverse fields indicate it might well have been wiped or cleaned in the past.

    As for polishing - is the mirror finish only in the fields but not the raised design (difficult to tell from those pictures)? If yes, then not polished, but if shiny all over then it most likely has been.

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  8. 19 hours ago, Rob said:

    The name Ilya might be a known person on the other side of the pond, whose moniker was highqualitylowprice or something like that. That was an eastern European showman (Romanian?) who was a world renowned expert in numismatics apparently. Numismatic bullshittery maybe, but nowt else. The sort of guy who would offer a 1967 penny for a thousand dollars, but agree to sell it to you for a 99% discount - FYI, still a rip off. Someone from that side will know who I mean and perhaps post a link to a sale of his?

    His last name wasn't Kuryakin by any chance?

  9. On 5/10/2026 at 9:22 PM, ozjohn said:

    The YouTube post was about the US not the UK who did not reduce the silver content in 1920 but waited until 1964. 

    Ok, but you did say "the US stole the silver from the people as did the UK earlier"

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