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Peckris 2

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  1. Certainly return proof coins that have been poorly handled, as these clearly have.

    It's nothing new however - you don't see fingerprints on 70s proofs, but sometimes you see very bad staining, a reaction with the coloured inlays. 1973 proof sets especially it seems, it's rare to find one where all the coins are perfect.

  2. 6 hours ago, Viccy Penny said:

    Did 19th century shillings & florins ever crop in change in this time?

    I would largely agree with copper. However, it wasn't out of the question, and I expect on rare occasions someone would pull a (grim) pre-1920 coin from their change. It never happened to me but not impossible. Do bear in mind that the only factor in such coins that went up in the 70s was their bullion value.

  3. 2 hours ago, DrLarry said:

    The whole debate on what constitutes a variety seems to me to have so many tight restrictions that I find myself becoming less and less interested in them .

    What do you mean by "variety"? There are so many types:

    • different mints e.g. Heatons, Kings Norton
    • major design changes, e.g. 1927 reverses
    • less dramatic changes like beaded/toothed borders, height of sea, position of initials etc
    • die identifiers
    • mules
    • die flaws and fills

    Just scratching the surface there (no pun intended).

  4. 11 minutes ago, copper123 said:

    Sorry yes I was quite younng at the time and yes it was withdrawn quite quickly .

    I found my last silver coin in my change in a pub given out as change in 1989 amazing really it was a florin as well

    Yes - I too found more pre-47 florins than shillings, though that may just be coincidence; the mintages of Geo VI silver florins and shillings are broadly similar. On the other hand, before 1982's 20p introduction you'd see many more florins as you'd get up to 4 as change from 50p, where you'd only get one shilling. 

    Sixpences survived until 1980 when they were demonetised.

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  5. 32 minutes ago, Unwilling Numismatist said:

    How very dare you!

    I am 100% NOT american. Partially Scottish, Irish and English with absolutely no American at all ;)

    Well, I've been watching American TV since Alias Smith & Jones and Kojak in the early 70s, and I can assure you that in all that time I never ever knew that 555 was a fictional phone exchange! (Happy Days, Cagney & Lacey, Murder She Wrote, The Rockford Files, Friends, Taxi, Cheers, Frasier... and all the Star Treks - oh wait... :lol: )

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  6. It was extremely common to find florins and shillings in change though it gradually lessened up to 1990/2 when the sizes changed and they were all withdrawn. It was also possible to find pre-47 silver, usually George VI. The humble sixpence also survived until 1980, though there never was a 2 1/2p coin.

    Note that the mintage of 10 pences and 5 pences (from 1968) never came anywhere near the mintage of 1971 bronze, for precisely this reason, that florins and shillings were only gradually withdrawn.

    copper123 - you didn't see ANY copper after August 1971 as it was no longer legal tender. In fact halfpennies were demonetised in 1969, so only pennies survived to 1971.

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  7. 3 hours ago, Unwilling Numismatist said:

    Is the correct answer!

    No, I said:

    The area code was the thing that struck me almost instantly, I didn't even bother trying the domain name (although for comedy gold perhaps I should have purchased it and directed it right back to predecimal.com for 24 hours lol).

    Maybe , but non-Americans wouldn't have a CLUE about that, so I echo Michael's remark about "not fair".

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  8. 13 hours ago, Paddy said:

    This beggars belief - and it seems some mugs are buying them!


    I sell them at 50p each - anyone interested? 🙂


    I really don't know where to begin with this. The main description has WW1 as well as WW11. The queen is "on the back" (!). Winston Churchill apparently was solely responsible for beating A-Dolf Hitler and Nazi Germany. Its composition is "metal" (you don't say :rolleyes:).

  9. 2 minutes ago, youliveyoulean said:

    Surely if VIP proofs were made for the lesser denominations, one would expect a corresponding version for the Crown (can you honestly imagine the powers that be giving a VIP a sixpence etc. without a larger denomination!?) although Rob's point must be right and is very perplexing!

    It's quite possible (though I'm just guessing) that some VIPs got the standard crown with their set, particularly as they were already scarce and struck mainly for collectors - your average VIP may not ever have seen one and would be duly impressed receiving even the non-proof version.

  10. 6 hours ago, Madness said:

    My guestimate: gEF

    I was almost going to give this an aPAS, if it weren't for the lack of detail in the two curls as circled in the lower image.  Mind you, I can't remember having seen any detail yet in either of these curls with the exception of the September proof, which was double struck.  Given the seeming ubiquity of the lack of detail here in the circulation coins, I'm not sure whether it's the product of coin wear, die wear or the result of something else in the minting process (such as slightly too little pressure applied by the press).  The fields seem relatively clean, although there are a couple of hairline scratches on the reverse. 

    The obverse has less of the pitting that plagues many (I'm a little hesitant to use the word "most" at this stage) of the circulation 1787 sixpences.  There is a small die crack at about 5 o'clock.

    Please critique my grading and comments.

    I personally would rate the reverse GEF, but would stop at EF for the obverse, as there are numerous instances of slight wear - the ribbon, the nose/lips/chin, tips of leaves, bottom of drapery, etc.

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  11. 9 hours ago, VillaRose said:

    I appreciate the suggestions on reference books. When I first started this venture I bought a copy of Coincraft's 1999 Standard Catalogue of English and UK Coins - 1066 to Date, if anyone remembers that from nearly 20 years ago. It's helpful in identifying types and designs, but the comments on grading and values are almost worthless at this point due to the passage of time. So I've ordered the grading book Peckris suggested. 

    I know it's big, but do hang on to the Coincraft book if  you can - the essays (some large, some small) before each section are well worth having, and are something that Spink doesn't offer; though Spink would be equally large if they did.